IronBird comments on Surprise, the bigots are uneducated

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

that's the part that pisses me off the most about so many religious people, they're just so fucking...lazy...about even their own religion.

i travel alot, stay in hostels cause cheap and you meet new/interesting people, the least interesting people are the bible thumpers who always make nice little show about praying in the public space in the morning and just generally bringing jesus up at every opportunity.

just to fuck with these people i like to ask them what the 10 commandments are...most can't remember, at which point i say some manner of "...why are you trying to push this shit you clearly don't know onto me? Moses's sermon on the mount is like the 1 thing all branch's of abrahamic religions agree on...", if they do repeat all 10 i say some manner of "trick question, there's more than 10...have you even ever actually read Exodus/Deuteronomy?"

these people are just so fucking annoying, they supposedly had some super-powerful moment of revelation, to become a bible thumping moron...yet they can't even be bothered to do the bare minimum of reading even just their own book let alone actually researching their faith.

all religions have this problem but the american christians are the worst by far, if i thought a book had the answers to all of lifes questions i would be memorizing/anlayzing the fuck out of that shit.

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Yeah it's all performative. I know a few people who are very well taught in christian scriptures and none of them do that kind of shit, or are an active member of any church, for the ones that do believe in God. Even after talking about religion with them for an hour you could think they're actually atheists

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[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

extra annoying is that these half-assed protestants have gotten to my mom, now she won't stop trying to "convert" me in ever more annoying ways.

she's never been seriously religious, she's just...old, isolated because her immediate family broke apart (9 siblings but none of them live close to each other, but also self-inflicted, moving out to bumfuck nowhere), and probably scared of dying like any sane human is.

i don't care so much about her fleeing to religion to deal with fear of death...but tthese chucklefuck protestants don't help with the fear of death they just make it even worse by convincing you any family members that don't join along will burn in hell...which if she found a denomination that was slightly less crazy wouldnt be an issue

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago*

they’re just so fucking…lazy…about even their own religion

Most people aren't going to learn a dead language, because it is time consuming and difficult and not particularly relevant to their material interests. The reason we're talking about the proper root words and what they mean has nothing to do with our own interest in the Bible as a theological or historical document. We're only discussing it because we're dealing with a series of public officials who claim a moralistic posture to do violence to the LGBTQ community.

On the flip side, most orthodox religious folks still just get their dogma the same way we got it - from a handful of scholars with their own socio-economic agendas, looking to make political points.

You didn't learn Greek. I didn't learn Greek. I'm not really surprised a church-going soccer mom in Arkansas terrified of her kid getting beaten up for acting queer hasn't spent a lot of time learning Greek. The translation doesn't really matter anyway. Its not as though a plain text condemnation of "Thou Shalt Not Kill" has ever dissuaded a religious zealot from doing murder. No more than a humanist lecture on the secular sanctity of life would dissuade an Atheist.

all religions have this problem but the american christians are the worst by far

Humans have a problem, wherein they seek comfort within a tribe of like-minded neighbors to justify their actions in hindsight. Religion is an expression of this tribal mentality. But if you really want to get to the nut of homophobia (or pedophilia or any other social contagion), you have to approach it with a much more material framing.

Until you get to the genuine sociological root of the dysfunction, you're just yelling at people for thinking wrong. And that's a lot of noise which never really sways anyone.

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