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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 loses Game of the Year from the Indie Game Awards (www.xda-developers.com)
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Clair Obscur won multiple awards but used generative AI art as placeholders during production.

The Indie Game Awards revoked Clair Obscur’s Debut and Game of the Year after the AI disclosure.

IGAs reassigned the awards (Blue Prince, Sorry We’re Closed) and reignited debate on gen-AI use.

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[–] 38 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

Oh no, they used gen AI filler art which they immediately replaced with human one. They did it the one way they could do it right, let's demonize them into submission while the flagrant violators get away with murder because why bother?

As someone who hates the AI bubble, this anti AI circlejerk is making me hate the circlejerk more than the bubble. Plan successful?

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    They lost the awards because they had positively affirmed there was no AI use in production, when the game had AI art in release for customers to see for five days.

    They were punished for being dishonest, not for AI.

    Edit: I'm sure their game sales already spiked from all the press of winning the awards. They still will benefit.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    So they lost because the promo material that seldom makes it into the game included AI this time around, for a very short while? Do you think that makes the people so judgemental look better?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    No the game itself included it. It was also used in the development of the game. The studio told the award show organization they didn't do either of those things. When it was found out that they did, they had to forfeit their awards. The game isn't any worse though, still worth playing.

    Edit to add: I think the misunderstanding here is that I think the value of the video game awards are zero, so in my eyes clair obscur gained and then lost nothing.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They also included filler textures which they kept track off and replaced. Going so asinine on this making the whole game being used with generative AI makes the term worthless, if that's what people are hoping to accomplish.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    How does it make it useless? If people find use in the term and its usage, by definition its useful. It doesn't need to make sense to 100% of people either.

    This is a perfect game to bring about discussion in where the line is between an ethically created video game vs one that's not ethically created. This isn't just an AI thing either, people have boycotted studios over other types of poor treatment of their employees too.

    People don't want art that comes from coercion or abused artists.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Your definition is useless to my concerns about AI, and you don't care about a discussion, you directly want to damn them - for using filler BS art that they made sure to remove and some promo? You want to throw them into the same lot as the same people vibe coding and generating a complete game out of AI, you do you. I just look at how they handle removing it and owning up to it after they use it. It's funny how flawed people who only tolerate perfection are versus the people who are capable of valuing people grow from their mistakes.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I'm literally playing their game now. The only thing I think was bad really is not disclosing it upfront, but I dont know if that was a mistake or intentional.

    Its still important that consumers are capable of making informed decisions.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    It's not because they used AI, it's because they lied and fraudulently marketed (and continue to fraudulently market) the game as never having used AI.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The game was not developed with generative AI. AI was used in promo and textures for a very limited time and then was substituted. If this is the war engine you are running, I want way off of it, my beef with modern AI is way different.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    How on earth is that not part of development? I don't personally mind that they used it in that way, but it is not debatable that they lied and have been fraudulently marketing the game. Follow the rules of the fucking contests you enter.

    If I only made a single cut with scissors and then switched to an xacto knife, did I never use scissors?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    while the flagrant violators get away with murder

    Who do you think is "getting away" with what?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Ask RAM prices. Maybe you missed the whole entire AI industry based off of pirated content now getting even Disney to pay them.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    What does that have to do with video games? How are they "getting away" with it? Maybe you missed the insane amount of backlash associated with all of those things you just listed?

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Oh yeah, that backlash has totally stopped them from getting away with it, you are totally right.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I keep asking and you keep failing to explain what "getting away with it" means. Who is getting away with what?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Basically all of the AI companies get away with violating basically all IP laws and norms, and manipulating the PC hardware market to the detriment of consumers. I believe that's what he meant by "getting away with murder". As a point of comparison to this relatively minor kerfuffle.

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