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Is any of these true about China?
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Also, the Great Leap Forward wasn't perfect, but it overwhelmingly succeeded, though the famine was terrible. Even during the Cultural Revolution -- which I see as backwards and utopian in many respects -- the trend in life expectancy rapidly increasing maintained.
There was the Four Pests Campaign contributing to it, though that impact is overstated.
You are right that that was the common belief, but it was long known that ecosystems are delicate things and carrying out such a campaign without so much as a test run on a smaller portion of the country to observe the impact was irresponsible. It was a case of Mao's genuine faith in the people backfiring due to not always being tempered by the "scientific" part of "scientific socialism".
"Sparrows can fly,"
Yeah, test results would not be 1:1 with a wider-scale implementation, but it surely would have still shown bugs getting out of hand, even if to a lesser extent.
there was such a feeling, and the idea that they could double iron production in such short time (which was absurd, and something other people better informed about the economy, like zhou enlai, did insist on saying before 1958) is pretty illustrative of that
i really like mao and i agree with a lot of what he wrote, he's probably the most important marxist for my own views after marx and lenin. but i think starting from 1956 he unfortunately kind of let idealism take too much of his views on development
First rule of the fight club: Don't mess with the birbs.
You are spot-on here, this is exactly, unironically believe and hope happens again to socialist nations. During the Cold War, there were many religious people in the West who unironically believed that the Warsaw Pact was the Antichrist. And let's not forget Adrian Zenz literally believing that he was "sent by God to punish Beijing".
If any god believes that people should suffer for turning towards socialism, or for any reason whatsoever, they must be opposed.