Some people say it's really privacy-giving and that you should use it as a privacy alternative. Others say it's alao on the big tech side. What's going on with telegram, really?

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[–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Telegram allegedly complied with a government to give them user data, and their e2e encryption was switched to be off by default. I know because when I started the chat with someone we raved about how it says 'end to end encrypted' before sending a message. Well, between then and when I decided to migrate off it, that private one-to-one chat's encryption was switched off.

I say it's okay, but only ensure that e2ee is on

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Even with e2ee, I wouldn't trust it since they use a closed-source, proprietary encryption protocol.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    How far they have fallen.. Which would you recommend, sans self-hosting a service? Signal?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Signal is easy to on board folks to. Not a huge fan of the phone number requirement, but it's worth the trade off for me. I used Session for a while, but media sharing was buggy. I've heard good things about Simplex, but the inability to have a desktop client was deal breaker for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah, it seems that everything has an imperfection, unfortunately. Just gotta choose one. I'd jump on Signal if they remove the phone number, but like you I think it's the shiniest of the bunch. I just want media with captions, uncompressed uploads, the ability to search messages, full e2ee for calls and messages, the ability to conference call, secure message migration/sync to a new client, emoji/rich text and markdown format support, by a company that promises not to access its users' messages, location or other identifying information.

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