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[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 127 points 3 years ago (20 children) What the fuck is wrong with 34% of Americans? permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago They're probably mostly rich or retired, so they can take as much vacation as they want anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arose8334@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I think there’s a lot of good old moralization going on out there. «Young people are getting lazy» etc. Especially from old rich people who got everything handed to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago* There's got to be a big chunk of that percentage that want MORE vacation time that Europe. At least based on my sample size of 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago They're probably employers. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (15 children) I don't want my company telling me when to spend my PTO? God forbid I'd rather have more days that I chose. Edit: ITT a complete lack of reading comprehension or even an attempt at identifying rage bait survey questions and shitty writing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I don’t want my company telling me when to spend my PTO? Even if it actually worked that way, in what shithole reality is barely having any PTO at all preferable to having a shitload of it that you can only use at select times? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago That's not the question asked in the survey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (8 children) They don't tell you that here in Europe? You're free to spend your PTO when and where you wish, usually under the condition you at least take the legal minimum days per year. Companies get fined if they don't meet those limits. There are usually restrictions about what requests employers can deny. Of course you can imagine some situations in which you can't have everyone leave when they wish (healthcare/police for instance). Of course there are shitty employers that try to abuse the exceptions and get away with it. At my former (Dutch) employer I had to take the legal minimum 20 days each year, but the 5 extra days I could save and spend in the next 5 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (7 children) Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August, in their workplaces, according to a Morning Consult survey of 1,047 U.S. adults. I get 25 days + 13 federal. I don't plan any of those in August. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's a super awesome vacation policy you are enjoying. Basically like they have in Europe. It took me 16 years to get that much vacation, and they just took away pay for my holidays now. Store will be closed but they won't be paying us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Replace like with "such as" or "for example". Does it sound more sensible now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Very cool. Everybody should get that. It's not like you have to take August off in most countries either. You can do it whenever it suits you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) That's bit how it works in Europe/the UK either. I get 31 days I can book whenever I like, staffing levels permitting, then the eight bank holidays which are set days because they're national holidays. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) like a month of in August Christ folks 🤦♂️ it's right there just waiting for someone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the right to take a month off if that's what you choose to do with your leave, not forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago They're probably mostly rich or retired, so they can take as much vacation as they want anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arose8334@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I think there’s a lot of good old moralization going on out there. «Young people are getting lazy» etc. Especially from old rich people who got everything handed to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago* There's got to be a big chunk of that percentage that want MORE vacation time that Europe. At least based on my sample size of 1. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago They're probably employers. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (15 children) I don't want my company telling me when to spend my PTO? God forbid I'd rather have more days that I chose. Edit: ITT a complete lack of reading comprehension or even an attempt at identifying rage bait survey questions and shitty writing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I don’t want my company telling me when to spend my PTO? Even if it actually worked that way, in what shithole reality is barely having any PTO at all preferable to having a shitload of it that you can only use at select times? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago That's not the question asked in the survey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (8 children) They don't tell you that here in Europe? You're free to spend your PTO when and where you wish, usually under the condition you at least take the legal minimum days per year. Companies get fined if they don't meet those limits. There are usually restrictions about what requests employers can deny. Of course you can imagine some situations in which you can't have everyone leave when they wish (healthcare/police for instance). Of course there are shitty employers that try to abuse the exceptions and get away with it. At my former (Dutch) employer I had to take the legal minimum 20 days each year, but the 5 extra days I could save and spend in the next 5 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (7 children) Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August, in their workplaces, according to a Morning Consult survey of 1,047 U.S. adults. I get 25 days + 13 federal. I don't plan any of those in August. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's a super awesome vacation policy you are enjoying. Basically like they have in Europe. It took me 16 years to get that much vacation, and they just took away pay for my holidays now. Store will be closed but they won't be paying us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Replace like with "such as" or "for example". Does it sound more sensible now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Very cool. Everybody should get that. It's not like you have to take August off in most countries either. You can do it whenever it suits you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) That's bit how it works in Europe/the UK either. I get 31 days I can book whenever I like, staffing levels permitting, then the eight bank holidays which are set days because they're national holidays. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) like a month of in August Christ folks 🤦♂️ it's right there just waiting for someone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the right to take a month off if that's what you choose to do with your leave, not forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I don’t want my company telling me when to spend my PTO? Even if it actually worked that way, in what shithole reality is barely having any PTO at all preferable to having a shitload of it that you can only use at select times? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago That's not the question asked in the survey. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago That's not the question asked in the survey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (8 children) They don't tell you that here in Europe? You're free to spend your PTO when and where you wish, usually under the condition you at least take the legal minimum days per year. Companies get fined if they don't meet those limits. There are usually restrictions about what requests employers can deny. Of course you can imagine some situations in which you can't have everyone leave when they wish (healthcare/police for instance). Of course there are shitty employers that try to abuse the exceptions and get away with it. At my former (Dutch) employer I had to take the legal minimum 20 days each year, but the 5 extra days I could save and spend in the next 5 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (7 children) Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August, in their workplaces, according to a Morning Consult survey of 1,047 U.S. adults. I get 25 days + 13 federal. I don't plan any of those in August. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's a super awesome vacation policy you are enjoying. Basically like they have in Europe. It took me 16 years to get that much vacation, and they just took away pay for my holidays now. Store will be closed but they won't be paying us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Replace like with "such as" or "for example". Does it sound more sensible now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Very cool. Everybody should get that. It's not like you have to take August off in most countries either. You can do it whenever it suits you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (7 children) Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August, in their workplaces, according to a Morning Consult survey of 1,047 U.S. adults. I get 25 days + 13 federal. I don't plan any of those in August. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's a super awesome vacation policy you are enjoying. Basically like they have in Europe. It took me 16 years to get that much vacation, and they just took away pay for my holidays now. Store will be closed but they won't be paying us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Replace like with "such as" or "for example". Does it sound more sensible now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Very cool. Everybody should get that. It's not like you have to take August off in most countries either. You can do it whenever it suits you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's a super awesome vacation policy you are enjoying. Basically like they have in Europe. It took me 16 years to get that much vacation, and they just took away pay for my holidays now. Store will be closed but they won't be paying us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* I don't disagree that US policy is shit. Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. It's a shit article with rage bait that skips any actual attempt in analysis, to which OC makes an equally useless comment JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING and questioning what the fuck is wrong with those respondents. When in reality the article wasn't read, the questions on the survey were never read, and they are just looking for that good old reddit amirite? I then answered with a simple, common answer to why a third of respondents might think a policy like 'a month off in August' might be dumb and here we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Replace like with "such as" or "for example". Does it sound more sensible now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago 👌 Yes, the author of the article and survey designer most definitely could have done a better job with language.. But they didn't, yet here we are, this entire sub ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that 34% of Americans could have had the audacity to answer no to the question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Very cool. Everybody should get that. It's not like you have to take August off in most countries either. You can do it whenever it suits you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August. But not in the context of what OC was bitching about. I'm not sure which part of this is a stupid rage bait article is unclear to the general audience here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) That's bit how it works in Europe/the UK either. I get 31 days I can book whenever I like, staffing levels permitting, then the eight bank holidays which are set days because they're national holidays. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) like a month of in August Christ folks 🤦♂️ it's right there just waiting for someone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the right to take a month off if that's what you choose to do with your leave, not forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) like a month of in August Christ folks 🤦♂️ it's right there just waiting for someone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the right to take a month off if that's what you choose to do with your leave, not forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the right to take a month off if that's what you choose to do with your leave, not forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Then that should be communicated clearly instead of the current chosen language. Otherwise you end up with, and here is where we complete that full circle, 34% of people answering "no I don't want that", answering OCs question why someone would answer that way. permalink fedilink source parent