▲ 240 ▼ Introducing Proton Sheets (proton.me) submitted 10 months ago by Matt@lemdro.id to c/technology@lemmy.world 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Nobody is your friend... but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox.... that's good enough for me... Check your threat model... 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states.... and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws) Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail.... there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service.... Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago 100% agree with your take. Why scare people looking to ditch google with stupid stuff like "but they complied with the government", bruh google complies with anyone who has their wallet in-hand. ProtonMail is a free inbox and is privacy friendly. Yes there are other options, but this isn't a bad one by any means. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) What's about Tuta? Is that good enough as protection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) No. The reasons the user gave against using ProtonMail are applicable to any and all commercial entities providing email service. It’s not even something you could accomplish yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Okay, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Time to host my own private encrypted email server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pathief@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago No email service can refuse to obey the law. None. Proton is at least non-profit now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Nobody is your friend... but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox.... that's good enough for me... Check your threat model... 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states.... and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws) Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail.... there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service.... Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago 100% agree with your take. Why scare people looking to ditch google with stupid stuff like "but they complied with the government", bruh google complies with anyone who has their wallet in-hand. ProtonMail is a free inbox and is privacy friendly. Yes there are other options, but this isn't a bad one by any means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago 100% agree with your take. Why scare people looking to ditch google with stupid stuff like "but they complied with the government", bruh google complies with anyone who has their wallet in-hand. ProtonMail is a free inbox and is privacy friendly. Yes there are other options, but this isn't a bad one by any means. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) What's about Tuta? Is that good enough as protection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) No. The reasons the user gave against using ProtonMail are applicable to any and all commercial entities providing email service. It’s not even something you could accomplish yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Okay, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Time to host my own private encrypted email server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) What's about Tuta? Is that good enough as protection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) No. The reasons the user gave against using ProtonMail are applicable to any and all commercial entities providing email service. It’s not even something you could accomplish yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Okay, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Time to host my own private encrypted email server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) No. The reasons the user gave against using ProtonMail are applicable to any and all commercial entities providing email service. It’s not even something you could accomplish yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Okay, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Time to host my own private encrypted email server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Time to host my own private encrypted email server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Honestly, you should try, if only to learn how many ways they have us by the balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pathief@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago No email service can refuse to obey the law. None. Proton is at least non-profit now. permalink fedilink source parent