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Is Pixelfed sawing off the branch that the Fediverse is sitting on? (ploum.net)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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[–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Expecting an photo centric app to display text only post is really ridculous. What's thr point of making pixelfed just another mastodon type app. With the same logic , why not complaining about mastodon only allowing micro blogging short text?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Well, Mastodon will show everything in the feed, no matter if it's a video, a short blog, a long blog, a picture, a podcast, whatever. Mastodon is (primarily) microblogging in terms of output, but an everything platform with a chronological feed in terms of input.

    This is where this user seems to get confused - they expect everything on the fediverse to display every type of content, just like Mastodon strives to do. Which is, as you said, ridiculous. If PixelFed was to display audio content and Funkwhale was to display pictures, what would be the point of these services in the first place? If they want everything to be Mastodon, why don't they just stick to Mastodon? Maybe Pixelfed users have no interest in reading their dumb blog posts?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Well, Mastodon will show everything in the feed, no matter if it’s a video, a short blog, a** long blog**, a picture, a podcast, whatever.

    Doesn't the long blog simply got truncated to 500 characters and link you to the original content? Which is very not user friendly

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not necessarily, no - it depends on how it is federated, and I believe the settings of the Mastodon instance. For example @blog@shkspr.mobi federates blog posts in full length, while @feed@404media.co based on Ghost only gives a lead paragraph.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    So it is all over the place it's so chaotic and confusing for people

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Terence Eden just wants as many people as possible to read what he writes with as much ease as possible, so he federates the full content. 404 Media wants people to visit their site, and some of the content is behind a paywall, so they keep the content on site. Different needs. Not very complicated.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    What’s thr point of making pixelfed just another mastodon type app.

    The problem is the Fediverse could be a lot more than just "decentralized versions of existing apps". Most people now have this app-centric mentality because it was beneficial for Big Tech sharecropping, not because it was better for us.

    We shouldn't need different types of apps to see different types of feeds and to sort our data in ways that we want.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    We don't need all fediverse platforms to be a Mastodon clone, we can instead have certain fediverse clients that have a global feed for displaying from all the fediverse and specific feeds for each type of content (videos, texts, images).

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    We don’t need all fediverse platforms to be a Mastodon clone

    We don't need platforms.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    A technology platform is the foundation for building and running business applications. The platform allows users to run their applications smoothly without worrying about the technology that supports them. At the same time, it allows technical staff to rapidly extend, enhance, or upgrade application software, increasing the speed of business.

    https://www.sap.com/canada/products/technology-platform/what-is-a-technology-platform.html

    Pixelfed is definitely a platform . You only heard the term in context of centralized big social media so you think the term has bad connotation

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    You only heard the term in context of centralized big social media so you think the term has bad connotation

    Please, don't assume things about the people on the other side of a debate. It's condescending and it robs us all of learning.

    I'm not saying that we don't need platforms because of "bad connotation". I'm saying it because I have worked on a "social browser" for the fediverse, an application server for using activitypub as a transport mechanism and I know that we can develop an open social web that does not rely on server-centric applications.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think you might be conflating two things. Right now the Fediverse largely looks like you just described. It's in it's infancy, trying to copy what it sees around it. Eventually it'll become a rebellious teen and forge it's on seperate identity. That's inevitable. I wouldn't worry about it.

    It's a very different thing though, saying all the apps need to integrate all the features and experience of every other app, so they're all largely the same and there's never a need to use more than one. That sounds like a terrible idea.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No, far from me saying that the clients (apps?) need to look the same. What I am saying is that the differentiation should be happening at the client, not the server.

    It's the thing with Communick. I wish I didn't have to offer separate instances for each of the services (Mastodon, Lemmy, Funkwhale) but that every member could get one account which then could use as their main fediverse actor, regardless of "frontend" suited them best. The shell should adapt to the user, instead of the user being forced to adapt to the application.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So like a single ActivityPub instance that hosts all the data, but users can have a Pixelfed app, Lemmy app, etc. all connect to that one server and use it to give the experience they specifically provide.

    That's a cool idea. I can see how that would work.

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