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[+] -16 points 11 months ago (17 children)

That's 99% an ad hominem. Not defending the r*pist or his mom, just saying that skipping this sorta low-hanging whataboutism has a better chance of getting people to come to the table on public spending. If OP wasn't left-handed they'd know that.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    It is a comparison, because it has the same reason.

    Comparisons are valid, even if they play close to the other person.

    Ad hominem is just attacking a person without any valid arguments.

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    It's not a comparison, it's a simile

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Now define simile without using the word 'comparison', since you believe a simile isn't a comparison

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It's when one thing is likened to another thing, so as to transfer attitudes or understanding from the second thing to the first thing.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    No. Ad hominem would have been "why should we listen to you? You raised a rapist." Very different.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    No, you're a pedophile from the future sent back to traumatize all the people who eventually save earth from aliens by raping them¹ when they're¹ young children so their¹ lives take different courses and humanity is harvested for protein by aliens! Nobody listen to them²!

    ¹the future heroes. Not the aliens.

    ²the person I'm replying to. Absolutely listen to the people they're² trying to traumatize, or youll have your proteins harvested.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I mean it’s not really an adhom. An adhominem implies attacking a person rather than argument. This is insulting a person for their family (assuming she probably defended him) and pointing to that insult as an example of investing in society.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Eh, to be really pedantic, ad hominem is more when you ça point how a person contradict himself in his reasoning.(The coherence of their arguments) Attacking the person itself and not their argument or how they use them is ad personam

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    An anthropology/sociology dual-doctrate program would get the point across much better. I'm not sure twitter is really suited for that, and I usually lose people by sentence 3. Sometimes a pithy own serves the purposes of communicating to your public audience much better, especially when the person you're responding but not necessarily talking to is not the sort to communicate in good faith.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    it's an argument AND a ad hominem

    why should we pay for his prison sentence, why isn't he paying it himself?

    like she paid her student loans?

    it's ok for the public to pay to feed and house her son but not ok for the public to pay dor education?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's an argument and an insult.

    An actual Ad hominem debate tactic implies it's a distraction from making an actual argument by trying to discredit the person who you're arguing against/or their source.

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