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EV that does not track my every move (www.mozillafoundation.org)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/privacy@programming.dev
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I am sure this article has been shared before, however I wanted to have a look at this topic.
The articles short summary is this:

All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever reviewed

I am currently driving a 2014 Ford Fiesta which just has a radio with a CD player and Bluetooth. I do not need more than that in a car.

The reason I am looking at all is that that the Fiesta does not belong to me and the friend owning it will be moving out in a bit, so I kinda need another one.

There seems to be one brand that is not as bad as the other ones (but still bad): Renault; mozilla's review...
Maybe I will have a look at their cars.

What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?

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[–] 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That's simply not how it works. The only "computer" system that is required and widely used is still obd-II which has been around since 1996. Thats all the independent shops diagnose with whether the car is 1999 or rolled off the lot yesterday. Any other computer system on board is dealer specific and a specialised system NOT accessed during regular work. Quit spamming misinformation.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    It's not required. These surveillance systems and data profiteering are very optional.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    this is just blind undirected cynicism. please show your work. I hate our surveillance state too, but if you misidentify the problem you will push away people who understand the situation from your cause.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Literally read the article that you're commenting on

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    3rd party mechanics aren’t plugging into anything but OBD II, and the kinds of systems you are talking about aren’t being checked by mechanics.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    And OBD II is open source and has been confirmed to not send home data from the car, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    you would have to show your work if you want to make that accusation. otherwise it’s just conspiratorial thoughts and cynicism.

    i can’t get much of anything like this telmetry over OBD II, and it certainly isn’t giving an internet connection to the car.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    No. You want to trust an app that's closed source and make claims that it isn't stealing your data?

    That burden is on you to reverse engineer every release and prove that it respects your privacy

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