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Hidden fees (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

That's actually a thing I addressed. You don't have to agree with me but reading the thing before whining about it would have been cool.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I read it I believe its transparently excusing obviously manipulative behaviour. I didn't not read you nor misunderstand I disagree now stop your whining

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    But I did address the nice round number thing. Very directly. I also absolutely did not make an excuse for it and I call it out as a bad business practice.

    So I think you're just full of shit. Read the fucking thing or don't, but don't try to moral high road me with a straw man.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let's go through it

    ...I understand how you could get there.,,,

    Yes stealing

    Prices have swung so wildly in the US in 2025 it’s basically unmanageable without a dedicated team.

    Like a calculator and a spreadsheet?

    You can either try to recalculate all of that every week or two based on tariffs, inflation, bird flu, etc… then reprint and spiral bind 50 to 100, 11-page menus (technically 6 laminated front and back).

    You don't actually do this. Nobody does this. What a sandwich costs isn't exact cost + a certain number of pennies its what people in the area are willing to pay for a sandwich. Cost is a floor and what planet earth does in case of uncertainty is build in a cushion. It is what everyone is obviously doing.

    Or you can try to guestimate a number you think you and your customers can live with and distribute your gains and losses across the whole menu and reprint one page with a fee (hopefully) once.

    Everyone is guestimating all the time in small business and they do so by setting the actual price to a higher figure. If you want to do so across the board you do so by literally making that the new menu price. The entire reason not to is to gain additional business because your business looks cheaper on its face by dishonestly marking it a separate fee. There is no justification other than dishonesty for making it a separate fee and it should be illegal.

    I’d personally weigh whether I think this place and the people who run it are maliciously trying to exploit me

    Increasing the price whilst printing a lie on the menu board is always maliciously exploiting you. This is like you asking if keeping the box the same size and putting at first 10 20 and ultimately 33% less shit in the box was maliciously exploiting you.. Are you that fuckin dense?

    You are making excuses < ME

    But I did address the nice round number thing. Very directly. I also absolutely did not make an excuse for it

    Literally you are sitting here explaining why they somehow need to exploit you

    Examine the argument.. Turn it sideways... Shove it where the sun doesn't shine. You ARE obviously making excuses. There is no complexity to it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I didn't say they need to exploit their customers. I said the exact opposite. In fact I agree with you that it should be illegal. I I don't think you could be compelled in court to pay that fee if you refused it. I've never stated anything to the contrary of that. You're still doing the straw man thing.

    I get that you are the moral arbiter of all things and you know that when a business owner charges a $0.10 fee on a $2 egg it's an evil get rich quick scheme to rob their community because they're greedy bad people.

    But over here in reality sometimes trade and craft businesses are run by people who are better at their trade and craft than they are at business. Sometimes, a resource intensive problem in the hands of that kind of person can result in a completely well-intentioned but terrible solution. That's not an excuse for it, it's just a thing that sometimes happens entirely without malice.

    I'm going to bow out of this conversation here. You go on living your life with your worldview I'll stick with mine. Good luck out there.

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