▲ 808 ▼ ICE to Buy Tool that Tracks Locations of Hundreds of Millions of Phones Every Day (www.404media.co) submitted 11 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 169 comments fedilink hide all child comments Archive: https://archive.is/wfmdL
[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 92 points 11 months ago (2 children) A proper Linux phone cannot come soon enough permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StefanT@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (4 children) As much as I would love to have a Linux phone, it will not fully help with privacy. The devices are logged into a cell tower and have a unique ID. This alone makes them trackable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 11 months ago (1 child) A removable physical or electronic SIM on a system that has full control of inbound or outbound traffic (linux phone) would still be a whole lot better than nothing. Imagine having a switch to reliably sever any heartbeat signals between the tower and the device at any time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StefanT@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago This would be a flight mode switch that reliably works. But it also means you are offline, which is no solution to the average "daily" problem of being tracked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Yup, the baseband modem does what it’s firmware tells it to, and that’s entirely independent from the phone’s software. And open baseband modems to my knowledge don’t exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) If the spyware/tracking started and ended at the cell tower it would be a good start. I'm not sure the sensor data would be sent to the tower either. It would just be a general area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago I wish smartphones only tracked and sent data about your location. They gather every personal information you could and could not imagine about you. They analyze what you click like on socia media and all your circle of friends. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago A Linux phone could theoretically use other networks. You could pipe traffic through I2P or bounce it around multiple network types with reticulum. It’s actually theoretically possible to make a community mesh that doesn’t need cellular at all. I don’t NEED to carry the entire internet with me everywhere. I can carry a device with a cache of stuff I need but for everything else I can just connect to some sort of network to fetch it when I actually need it on demand. A Linux phone would let you do that. You can explore that possibility. Android and IPhone will never allow that because latency is shot on the alternative networks and they aren’t expensive enough to make a profit off of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz -5 points 11 months ago (1 child) The pinephone released years ago. Flip phones with removable batteries have existed for decades. At this point its on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ronigami@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago What carrier do you use with a pinephone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StefanT@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (4 children) As much as I would love to have a Linux phone, it will not fully help with privacy. The devices are logged into a cell tower and have a unique ID. This alone makes them trackable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 11 months ago (1 child) A removable physical or electronic SIM on a system that has full control of inbound or outbound traffic (linux phone) would still be a whole lot better than nothing. Imagine having a switch to reliably sever any heartbeat signals between the tower and the device at any time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StefanT@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago This would be a flight mode switch that reliably works. But it also means you are offline, which is no solution to the average "daily" problem of being tracked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Yup, the baseband modem does what it’s firmware tells it to, and that’s entirely independent from the phone’s software. And open baseband modems to my knowledge don’t exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) If the spyware/tracking started and ended at the cell tower it would be a good start. I'm not sure the sensor data would be sent to the tower either. It would just be a general area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago I wish smartphones only tracked and sent data about your location. They gather every personal information you could and could not imagine about you. They analyze what you click like on socia media and all your circle of friends. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago A Linux phone could theoretically use other networks. You could pipe traffic through I2P or bounce it around multiple network types with reticulum. It’s actually theoretically possible to make a community mesh that doesn’t need cellular at all. I don’t NEED to carry the entire internet with me everywhere. I can carry a device with a cache of stuff I need but for everything else I can just connect to some sort of network to fetch it when I actually need it on demand. A Linux phone would let you do that. You can explore that possibility. Android and IPhone will never allow that because latency is shot on the alternative networks and they aren’t expensive enough to make a profit off of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 11 months ago (1 child) A removable physical or electronic SIM on a system that has full control of inbound or outbound traffic (linux phone) would still be a whole lot better than nothing. Imagine having a switch to reliably sever any heartbeat signals between the tower and the device at any time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StefanT@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago This would be a flight mode switch that reliably works. But it also means you are offline, which is no solution to the average "daily" problem of being tracked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StefanT@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago This would be a flight mode switch that reliably works. But it also means you are offline, which is no solution to the average "daily" problem of being tracked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Yup, the baseband modem does what it’s firmware tells it to, and that’s entirely independent from the phone’s software. And open baseband modems to my knowledge don’t exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) If the spyware/tracking started and ended at the cell tower it would be a good start. I'm not sure the sensor data would be sent to the tower either. It would just be a general area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago I wish smartphones only tracked and sent data about your location. They gather every personal information you could and could not imagine about you. They analyze what you click like on socia media and all your circle of friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago I wish smartphones only tracked and sent data about your location. They gather every personal information you could and could not imagine about you. They analyze what you click like on socia media and all your circle of friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago A Linux phone could theoretically use other networks. You could pipe traffic through I2P or bounce it around multiple network types with reticulum. It’s actually theoretically possible to make a community mesh that doesn’t need cellular at all. I don’t NEED to carry the entire internet with me everywhere. I can carry a device with a cache of stuff I need but for everything else I can just connect to some sort of network to fetch it when I actually need it on demand. A Linux phone would let you do that. You can explore that possibility. Android and IPhone will never allow that because latency is shot on the alternative networks and they aren’t expensive enough to make a profit off of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz -5 points 11 months ago (1 child) The pinephone released years ago. Flip phones with removable batteries have existed for decades. At this point its on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ronigami@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago What carrier do you use with a pinephone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago What carrier do you use with a pinephone? permalink fedilink source parent