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Joe Rogan defends Kimmel and tells conservatives supporting censorship: ‘Oh my God, you’re crazy’ (www.cnn.com)
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[–] 22 points 11 months ago (1 child)

He didn't even say that though, this is driving me insane, he said that Trump and them were doing everything they could to pin the blame on the left and score political points from it, which is undeniable. He didn't say anything about who he actually thought the shooter was.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    He literally said that the right is "desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them".

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Which is not saying that the killer was one of them.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I see, you could actually interpret it either way.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    How do you interpret it any way other than what it says? You are making an assumption if you interpret it differently than what he clearly stated.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I read it as him saying that the shooter was unquestionably right wing, which is different than saying that the right wing is desperate to prove that it's anyone else.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    The right also desperate to prove its somebody else because they want targets for political repression and kirk's death is simply not useful otherwise.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, just as there are those on the left who view the killing as deserved or somehow an acceptable outcome.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Idk how true that is. I think its more that if we're just going to have random people shooting folks at events it seems less bad if the people shot are the ones with a giant megaphone saying that the shootings should be seen as inevitable.

    Its like, at least the guy that got shot had lived as millionaire for a decade and its not some kid this time

    I can't point to anyone notable that couldn't be an AI or right winger sockpuppet account that actually cheered it on in the same sort of way that like republican politicians gleefully celebrated nancy pelosi's husband being attacked.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Kirk's killing is inherently more political. School shootings are a slightly different matter. I don't think Robinson was capable of killing random people. He chose his target. It was an assassination.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I would argue all school shootings are political because they're a result of a policy and distinguishing Kirk as a political figure is just some bullshit. Kirk also is not a politician. He's just well connected to republican party donors, many of whom also own large portions of the US media.

    Kirk was a rich guy and a friend of donors. This makes him "Important" in US media. Avg people probably are largely unaware of who he was before he died, so I disagree that this is a "political" assassination and more like a "celebrity" assassination similar to John Lennon

    Still bad and stupid but the shooter's motives were probably more about his loved ones being harrassed by kirk fans than anything truly ideological.

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