▲ 682 ▼ Joe Rogan defends Kimmel and tells conservatives supporting censorship: ‘Oh my God, you’re crazy’ (www.cnn.com) submitted 11 months ago by devolution@lemmy.world to c/leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments Nom Nom Nom...
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 219 points 11 months ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 74 points 11 months ago (2 children) Nah, that would be when Ted Cruz made similar comments the other day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Only because they are worried the next government will turn on them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the 'liberal agenda'. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there's no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassanderer 10 points 11 months ago Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices. After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker. That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago (2 children) With all the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk's shooting, and it's a new level of Bizarro World out there, the most bizarre may be that Rafael Edward Cruz was a voice of reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rayyy@piefed.social 10 points 11 months ago (4 children) the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it. It is literally physically impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent [–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 3 points 11 months ago I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 74 points 11 months ago (2 children) Nah, that would be when Ted Cruz made similar comments the other day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Only because they are worried the next government will turn on them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the 'liberal agenda'. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there's no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassanderer 10 points 11 months ago Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices. After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker. That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago (2 children) With all the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk's shooting, and it's a new level of Bizarro World out there, the most bizarre may be that Rafael Edward Cruz was a voice of reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rayyy@piefed.social 10 points 11 months ago (4 children) the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it. It is literally physically impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent [–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 3 points 11 months ago I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Only because they are worried the next government will turn on them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the 'liberal agenda'. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there's no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassanderer 10 points 11 months ago Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices. After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker. That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the 'liberal agenda'. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there's no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassanderer 10 points 11 months ago Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices. After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker. That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassanderer 10 points 11 months ago Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices. After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker. That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago (2 children) With all the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk's shooting, and it's a new level of Bizarro World out there, the most bizarre may be that Rafael Edward Cruz was a voice of reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rayyy@piefed.social 10 points 11 months ago (4 children) the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it. It is literally physically impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent [–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 3 points 11 months ago I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rayyy@piefed.social 10 points 11 months ago (4 children) the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it. It is literally physically impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cassanderer 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent [–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children) 30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead. https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it. It is literally physically impossible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassanderer 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 11 months ago There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassanderer 3 points 11 months ago I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them. permalink fedilink source parent
