▲ 1025 ▼ Bro these racists are so embarrassing (discuss.online) submitted 1 year ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 238 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://xcancel.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1962641574430457927#m
[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) Are Muslims allowed to sanitize with alcohol? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Yes, it's just consumption of alcoholic foodstuffs that's proscribed. It might get murky if you're dealing with some really regressive people and you're also sanitizing with burbon, but otherwise it's a pretty settled topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Interesting. My city has many breweries of local spirits so when we were low on hand sanitizers during COVID, the government allowed these breweries to make their own sanitizers. It probably would have been nice to include a warning label for our Muslim friends saying that these products might not be allowed for them to use! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn't separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there! permalink fedilink source parent [–] AeroNaut@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Yes, though it is preferred not to be the drinkable kind. Without giving a fatwa (religious verdict) the way to think of it is the goal is to not drink alcohol. In particular is highlighted to not get drunk or addicted to it, but of course there may be other subtending reasons too. Intentions matter greatly in islam; it's generally very practical. At the same time the prohibition against drinkable alcohol in islam is so strong even the people who buy/sell, or even serve alcohol are considered sinning so best to stay well clear. That's why there is such a distaste for the stuff in islamic culture, but for practical purposes as a chemical it can be extremely useful. It could also be argued that it naturally appears in some foods (like overripe bananas I believe), but of course those probably aren't haram as you're likely not going to suffer the same effects. Allah knows best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Yes, it's just consumption of alcoholic foodstuffs that's proscribed. It might get murky if you're dealing with some really regressive people and you're also sanitizing with burbon, but otherwise it's a pretty settled topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Interesting. My city has many breweries of local spirits so when we were low on hand sanitizers during COVID, the government allowed these breweries to make their own sanitizers. It probably would have been nice to include a warning label for our Muslim friends saying that these products might not be allowed for them to use! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn't separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Interesting. My city has many breweries of local spirits so when we were low on hand sanitizers during COVID, the government allowed these breweries to make their own sanitizers. It probably would have been nice to include a warning label for our Muslim friends saying that these products might not be allowed for them to use! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn't separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn't separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AeroNaut@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Yes, though it is preferred not to be the drinkable kind. Without giving a fatwa (religious verdict) the way to think of it is the goal is to not drink alcohol. In particular is highlighted to not get drunk or addicted to it, but of course there may be other subtending reasons too. Intentions matter greatly in islam; it's generally very practical. At the same time the prohibition against drinkable alcohol in islam is so strong even the people who buy/sell, or even serve alcohol are considered sinning so best to stay well clear. That's why there is such a distaste for the stuff in islamic culture, but for practical purposes as a chemical it can be extremely useful. It could also be argued that it naturally appears in some foods (like overripe bananas I believe), but of course those probably aren't haram as you're likely not going to suffer the same effects. Allah knows best. permalink fedilink source parent
