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Amerikkka land of the jailed (But China is defo AuThOrITarIAn!!) (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 31 points 1 year ago (61 children)

The US killed a million innocent people in Iraq just a few years ago, and is *currently * drone bombing several countries in ME and north africa, and is currently supporting the apartheid state of israel with billions of dollars in military aid.

The PRC has not been in a war since its skirmish with Vietnam in 1979.

The US has a network of > 800 military bases across the globe, and has been involved in regime change in nearly every country.

Which one is authoritarian?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (30 children)

    "They can both be authoritarian"

    "WELL USA INVADED IRAQ"

    Lmao

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  • [+] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)
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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

    you couped my country and made it undemocratic to this day and you can't even tell where i'm from.

    You can't either it seems since I'm not American. What's with assuming everyone online is American lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Look up the definition of authoritarianism. Bombing other countries is not the defining feature of an authoritarian government.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Terms like Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism were defined or entrenched by a lot of western supremacist authors, who needed to twist terminology in such a way that excluded the US (capitalism's worldwide enforcer and the cause of so much death and destruction) from any wrongdoing, while demonizing the colonial world who fought back against the US for their own sovereignty as "authoritarian".

    I highly suggest reading Losurdo's - Western Marxism, for an in-depth analysis of some of these white supremacist authors, and how they demonize the anti-colonial struggle.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Uighurs

    Tibet

    Supporting Russia in Ukraine

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    I feel like this is shifting the focus to imperialism, where the US is overwhelmingly and undeniably worse.

    However, domestically, if you wanna pretend that someone as a random citizen, has any chance of receiving political representation in China, well you enjoy your fantasy.

    The US and China are both deeply undemocratic places. I'm saying this as someone from neither country.

    Anyone who's actually been to China would know this. It is authoritarian. It's not even something viewed as bad by most people in China. It's just the way things are there.

    There is pretty strong support for the government there, albeit that could be argued as product of censorship, repression and also genuine support. Many see the CCP as having done a lot of good things which they are grateful for, which in addition to the bad things, in fairness, they have done.

    I'm getting kinda tired of some leftists knee jerking "China Good", just as much as I'm getting kinda tired of the "China Bad" crowd, when the truth is neither wholly good nor wholly bad.

    We can be leftists and not have a hard-on for any country claiming to be socialist, you know

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