▲ 236 ▼ Influencers are disgusted with Amazon's paltry $25-per-video endorsement offer | It looks like full-time Amazon UCG creators are getting a 90-percent cut in pay (www.techspot.com) submitted 3 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments Influencers are disgusted with Amazon's paltry $25-per-video endorsement offer | It looks like full-time Amazon UCG creators are getting a 90-percent cut in pay::undefined
[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (28 children) How about influencers look for a real job instead? permalink fedilink source hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago That's exactly what they're bitching about. It is too much like a real job. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Because they already have a real job, and now they're being screwed by their employer, just like a real job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Technically it's their client that's putting the thumb screws to them. If that's the case the logical solution is to put your commercial hat on and find another client. Amazon aren't the only ones paying. If Amazon was your only client that'll be tough, but speaking from experience if you don't diversify your client base, you're living on borrowed time anyway. This doesn't mean Amazon are not being abusive, but the solution isn't to moan on the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago That's pretty silly; moaning on the Internet is a good way to raise awareness and support. No one can do anything about these structural issues as individuals permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (19 children) I'm honestly sickened by the simping for Amazon in this thread. Pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (4 children) Is it really dumping for Amazon? Or just dunking on influencers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago PQNLD, two dopamine hits for the price of one! permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (13 children) More like everyone taking Zucks side in his cage match with Elon. We hate them both, a lot, but you’ve got to choose someone to root for. For me it’s a bit like slime mold. I can mostly avoid contact with Amazon if I choose to; influencers just spring up organically around me an no amount of bleach can get rid of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] June@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* I’m not rooting for Zuck, I just know he’s kick Musks ass. And even if it’s just another billionaire, I always wanna see a billionaire get their ass kicked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (11 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) All labor deserves a livable wage I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent [–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago* (3 children) I don't really understand what an "influencer" is. Seems like a made up term to justify unemployment,plus they should be called "IMHOs", cause that's exactly what they are: " in my humble opinioners". IMHO of course. Edit: autocorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Influencers are narcissists monetising their pathology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Coolcoder360@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I suspect many of them aren't humble at all though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago It's rarely humble, and rarely their opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago That's exactly what they're bitching about. It is too much like a real job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Because they already have a real job, and now they're being screwed by their employer, just like a real job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Technically it's their client that's putting the thumb screws to them. If that's the case the logical solution is to put your commercial hat on and find another client. Amazon aren't the only ones paying. If Amazon was your only client that'll be tough, but speaking from experience if you don't diversify your client base, you're living on borrowed time anyway. This doesn't mean Amazon are not being abusive, but the solution isn't to moan on the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago That's pretty silly; moaning on the Internet is a good way to raise awareness and support. No one can do anything about these structural issues as individuals permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Technically it's their client that's putting the thumb screws to them. If that's the case the logical solution is to put your commercial hat on and find another client. Amazon aren't the only ones paying. If Amazon was your only client that'll be tough, but speaking from experience if you don't diversify your client base, you're living on borrowed time anyway. This doesn't mean Amazon are not being abusive, but the solution isn't to moan on the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago That's pretty silly; moaning on the Internet is a good way to raise awareness and support. No one can do anything about these structural issues as individuals permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago That's pretty silly; moaning on the Internet is a good way to raise awareness and support. No one can do anything about these structural issues as individuals permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (19 children) I'm honestly sickened by the simping for Amazon in this thread. Pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (4 children) Is it really dumping for Amazon? Or just dunking on influencers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago PQNLD, two dopamine hits for the price of one! permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (13 children) More like everyone taking Zucks side in his cage match with Elon. We hate them both, a lot, but you’ve got to choose someone to root for. For me it’s a bit like slime mold. I can mostly avoid contact with Amazon if I choose to; influencers just spring up organically around me an no amount of bleach can get rid of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] June@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* I’m not rooting for Zuck, I just know he’s kick Musks ass. And even if it’s just another billionaire, I always wanna see a billionaire get their ass kicked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (11 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) All labor deserves a livable wage I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (4 children) Is it really dumping for Amazon? Or just dunking on influencers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago PQNLD, two dopamine hits for the price of one! permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago PQNLD, two dopamine hits for the price of one! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (13 children) More like everyone taking Zucks side in his cage match with Elon. We hate them both, a lot, but you’ve got to choose someone to root for. For me it’s a bit like slime mold. I can mostly avoid contact with Amazon if I choose to; influencers just spring up organically around me an no amount of bleach can get rid of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] June@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* I’m not rooting for Zuck, I just know he’s kick Musks ass. And even if it’s just another billionaire, I always wanna see a billionaire get their ass kicked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (11 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) All labor deserves a livable wage I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] June@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* I’m not rooting for Zuck, I just know he’s kick Musks ass. And even if it’s just another billionaire, I always wanna see a billionaire get their ass kicked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (11 children) All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) All labor deserves a livable wage I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teruma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (5 children) It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (4 children) Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that. You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist. Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it. Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together. Postal workers don't work for delivery companies They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide. You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) All labor deserves a livable wage I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago* (3 children) I don't really understand what an "influencer" is. Seems like a made up term to justify unemployment,plus they should be called "IMHOs", cause that's exactly what they are: " in my humble opinioners". IMHO of course. Edit: autocorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Influencers are narcissists monetising their pathology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Coolcoder360@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I suspect many of them aren't humble at all though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago It's rarely humble, and rarely their opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Influencers are narcissists monetising their pathology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Coolcoder360@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I suspect many of them aren't humble at all though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago It's rarely humble, and rarely their opinion permalink fedilink source parent