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Steven Fulop, the Mayor of Jersey City. He is smarter than the average american politician. (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ebikes that do 30mph? That's a special category called speedpedelec here. Need a license to ride, mandatory helmet, mandatory insurance and mandatory license plate on the "bike". All other electrified bicycles are called ebikes, no license, plates or helmet required (but I insist you wear one anyway), they're limited to 25kph (what is that, like 14mph?) assisted and the motor can't exceed 250W.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Where is that out of curiosity? I don't know the laws everywhere of course not even in different states, but I was able to get a 500W(advertised at 1000 peak) off of Amazon here in GA, US for fairly cheap and ride it without any issues.

    Looking at the GA state laws, it would count as a class 3 ebike (under 750W pedal assist higher than 20 mph but lower than 29 mph)(also has a mode that works as class 2, full motor up to 20mph but I never use it), which just means I have to be above 15 and wear a helmet. Technically, I should always ride it on the road instead of on the sidewalk, but the sidewalks around here hardly ever have people on them, so I mix between.

    I do generally prefer lower pedal assist since I use it for exercise as well, and I don't feel comfortable going above 20 anyway so I only hit max 25 going down hills because I'm already trying to brake if I'm going above 23 or so

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Are regular cyclists allowed to ride faster than 30MPH?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    If the posted speed is >30mph and you juiced your legs like Armstrong, then I guess, at least here, it's fair game.

    Large groups of cyclists can go between 40 and 50kph on a level road, so if they go downhill then sure.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I routinely break 30MPH on my regular unjuiced legs. I do understand how the fact that ebikes can readily and easily break that speed in any conditions leads to them doing it regularly thus making them a greater risk to themselves and bystanders. But it still always strikes me as a little funny or ironic how they need a license in many places to do that while I do it all the time for free, and how the conversation over safe streets often revolves around how to manage them, while meanwhile cars in my country continue to kill 125+ people every day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Ebikes don't need licenses, pedelecs do.

    However, your ebike (max 25kph pedal assistance) can be tested by police and if it fails the test (altered pedal assistance, motor >250W, ...) they are taken and later destroyed. People generally don't go over the pedal assisted speed because the bikes are rather heavy.

    I converted my bike to an ebike. I could set it to 60kph but I don't because I don't want it taken away and 25kph is plenty okay imo. The first time I tested the bike i managed to go 40kph I think and that's when my legs couldn't move fast enough to drive the pedal assistance. It's only a 7 speed and at that time I still only had caliper brakes 😅. It just one of the first test rides checking the configuration.

    Also, neither pedelec nor ebike are allowed to use/have a throttle. That would make them electric scooterbikes, which is a different category of vehicle with more/other regulation. My kit came with a throttle, but I didn't mount it.

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