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"We're totally different sides!" (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry but you're extremely too credulous and unthinking.

I already explained why and how bans on chokeholds are superficial. Are your senses so dull that you didn't notice or are you being deliberately dishonest and lazy by not addressing it?

Body cams are even more glaring an example. It's extremely fucking common knowledge that they turn them off whenever they want. Do you think you're being strategic by ignoring that fact? Because the effect in reality is it makes you sound like an idiot. Your entire premise is undermined.

You just straight up have no idea what's happening in the world around you.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

"More training costs money"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "The perfect is the enemy of the good."

    Yes, some cops are going to use chokeholds regardless of bans. Some people are going to commit murder regardless of it being illegal too. That doesn't mean we shouldn't bother having laws against murder. The fact that chokes are not reduced to zero by chokehold bans does not negate that it reduces the number of chokes used. In the same way, the fact that cops will sometimes shut off their cams does not negate the times that they don't turn off the cams and it allows victims to seek justice.

    I am aware of Killilogy and Warrior Cop training. Cops receiving the wrong training is an entirely separate issue from the cost of improved training.

    Finally, please refrain from personal attacks as this detracts from your arguments and violates community guidelines.

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    “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”

    Murdering black people for advocating their civil rights is good huh?

    Cops receiving the wrong training is an entirely separate issue from the cost of improved training.

    No it isn't. You're hiding behind hollow rhetoric and ignoring reality entirely. Yes. In your fucking mind palace it's TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE to train police to not be bad. But you're ignoring all present conditions and all of history. I'm not going to apologize for you feeling stupid or offended at being called stupid. You're stupid.

    the fact that cops will sometimes shut off their cams does not negate the times that they don’t turn off the cams and it allows victims to seek justice

    Mind palace. Completely ignoring how the world works in favor of how the argument works in a vacuum.

    The fact that chokes are not reduced to zero by chokehold bans does not negate that it reduces the number of chokes used. In the same way

    Petulance. Police killings are up, not down. The direction is not towards zero. You're either a fascist or a useful idiot. It literally does not matter which. I call you a fascist.

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