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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think the top comment is the real answer on this.

There is censorship in China, as well as in the west. They just operate very differently.

In the west, outside the US, I think it'd be fairly easy to argue there's more censorship in China. (Even with the pretty depressing clamp down on right to protest, and suppressing of anti-israel speech in many forms happening at the moment)

Equally though, people massively overblow what censorship is actually like in China. I'm not gonna get disappeared next time I go to China just for this comment. Or even if I overtly criticised the government on real-name social media.

tl;dr "China bad!" and "China so good!" are both equally annoying positions to find on the internet.

Reality is nuanced, but that doesn't seem to make people happy.

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[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

suppression of anti-israel speech

any source on this because what I'm seeing on xiaohongshu is quite the opposite

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[–] FleetwoodLinux@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I believe they're saying the stuff in the parentheses are things the US is doing

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[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Ah that makes way more sense

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

@FleetwoodLinux@lemmy.zip thanks for the assist. This is indeed what I meant.

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[–] ballgoat@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

The top comment about an inoffensive cartoon vs a terrible person?

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Top comment is about how Chinese censorship is not overt, but behind the scenes to stop your speech from spreading. It's definitely censorship, but no one is going to arrest you for criticising the government online (to a point), they'll just stop you from reaching others with your message.

I'm just saying that there definitely is censorship, just not what some "China Bad" people imagine.

My comment was in opposition to the "China Good" crowd who also pretend like everything bad said about China is not true.

Reality is inbetween, in my opinion. It's a country with good and bad points.

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[–] ballgoat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry for the late reply. I agree completely. China is a state like any other and does good and bad things. People love to just make up garbage about China, and some people say the weirdest pro China shit you can imagine.

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[+] tempest@lemmy.ca -13 points 1 year ago

You won't get disappeared so long as you're parent country is on good terms with China. If not you make a convenient pawn.

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[+] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (23 children)

You just can’t make memes about Xi using Pooh on social media I guess.

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[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Out of curiosity, is there any Chinese source that says that? Or are we just operating off memes we have seen?

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -18 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I feel like the Taiwanese air force wouldn't bother with these unofficial patches if there weren't at least some truth to it.

A punch in the face for Xi caricature: Taiwan air force badge goes viral

Taiwanese are rushing to buy patches being worn by their air force pilots that depict a Formosan black bear punching Winnie the Pooh - representing China's President Xi Jinping - as a defiant symbol of the island's resistance to Chinese war games.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I feel like the Taiwanese air force wouldn’t bother with these unofficial patches if there weren’t at least some truth to it.

I don't see the logic in this sentence. What makes those soldiers a more reliable source than you or me? Taiwanese people read memes too.

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -17 points 1 year ago

👌

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Gets asked for a Chinese source, posts Reuters

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I thought about asking how would state controlled media be able to publish anything about an image if it's banned. Then I figured that's pretty obvious, and didn't want to ruffle any feathers. Should have known better than to try and go against the narrative. My bad.

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Who's talking about getting something from state controlled media?

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

😂

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Would be my reaction too if I wouldn't be able to corroborate claims. Did you know the Ukrainians claim to be winning the war? So do the Russians.I wonder who's right?

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah idk, who do you believe is the aggressor in that situation?

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see you're not smart enough to recognize a rhetorical question and choose to use it as a deflection from not being able to corroborate your ridiculous claim that you can't post winnie the poh on chinese social media. Basically I was trying to highlight that anyone can claim anything it's why @SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world is right in asking for your homework libshit

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

😂 so anyway, who is the aggressor?

With Love, Libshit

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

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[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Brother. You must say something is banned for it to be banned. You can't just vibe ban something. You have to tell people "hey, stop doing this". Where is that message

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[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

Well you are foolish if you really think this proves anything. There is a long history of anti-China movements catering to the west for sympathy, as that's their main backer. Protest signs in English and this are just part of an appeal to the west.

All this proves is that they have heard the same stupid memes you have.

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Have they cast themselves as 'pedo bear'?

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[+] nomoretrdsssss@lemmings.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

🤔 Interesting. China Military Calls for Efforts to Repair Image after Scandals

Got any hot takes about this army?

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[–] Grerkol@leminal.space 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think many people are gonna have "hot takes" based on a vaguely titled article behind a paywall.

Also "scandals" to do with the Chinese military have little to do with someone saying that Taiwanese military badges don't prove anything about the situation in China.

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[+] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

But all armies=bad and propaganda, no?

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

????

Least incognito sinophobe

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[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Do the Taiwanese not also like dank memes?

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[+] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

So they're surely just randomly banning those words from videogames

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

I knew woke leftists making vidyagames political was CCP plot

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[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk man. People typically use it to be racist against Chinese folk. It's not crazy that video game moderation teams would ban a common insult against a race of players.

I also don't know anything, but it sounds like none of us do and we are just speculating

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[+] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it started as an adorable meme on Chinese forums:

It then became a racist trope on Western forums.

The title of president is ceremonial, so term limits on it are hardly consequential. The real top position since 1982 has been the General Secretary of the CPC, which is a renewable five year term that has never had term limits. Xi is still very popular with people in China, so it’s no surprise that he won a third term in 2022. Jiang Zemin also won three terms, so there’s nothing unusual about it.

And why wouldn’t Xi be popular?

Where you got “fascist” and “dictator” from was a lifetime of Western anti-communist propaganda.

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[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there a source for this claim? Or just something you've noticed?

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[+] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Basically all games tencent have stock in ban saying 'winnie the pooh"

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[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Basically all games by UBIsoft or EA in stock ban saying: "Fredthefishlord is sinophobic lib"

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[+] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I feel like people already forgot about the hearthstone hongkong debacle, when Blizzard Activision bent their asses for tencent and banned him