▲ 280 ▼ Giving Up on Element & Matrix.org (xn--gckvb8fzb.com) submitted 1 year ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 198 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 18 points 1 year ago (7 children) Back to IRC we go... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago (6 children) It is entirely insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ExFed@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago Not when the entirety of your conversations are jargon and in-jokes! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The argument has always been, if when chat rooms are public, anyone can join and start logging the chats, encryption does nothing. It has the ability to connect over TLS, but that's about it. I loved using it for its simplicity, except when using all the different flavours of nick registration (Q, NickServ, ...). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago My friends created a telegram group and invited in a couple of bots that do stupid things like posting images or vulgarities when they detect certain words, or perform actions on request. I tried to convince them to get rid of the bots but they're in the "we have nothing to hide" camp. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago There is some nuance here. It would be nice to not have your identity publicly linked to your IP address, which is not always the default on IRC. That's the main privacy concern I know about I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] undrwater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Define secure. You can run your own network. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago xmpp isn't. (Ok I get xmpp alone is but every modern client supports the same two encryption methods so judge for yourself) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago (6 children) It is entirely insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ExFed@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago Not when the entirety of your conversations are jargon and in-jokes! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The argument has always been, if when chat rooms are public, anyone can join and start logging the chats, encryption does nothing. It has the ability to connect over TLS, but that's about it. I loved using it for its simplicity, except when using all the different flavours of nick registration (Q, NickServ, ...). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago My friends created a telegram group and invited in a couple of bots that do stupid things like posting images or vulgarities when they detect certain words, or perform actions on request. I tried to convince them to get rid of the bots but they're in the "we have nothing to hide" camp. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago There is some nuance here. It would be nice to not have your identity publicly linked to your IP address, which is not always the default on IRC. That's the main privacy concern I know about I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] undrwater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Define secure. You can run your own network. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago xmpp isn't. (Ok I get xmpp alone is but every modern client supports the same two encryption methods so judge for yourself) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExFed@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago Not when the entirety of your conversations are jargon and in-jokes! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The argument has always been, if when chat rooms are public, anyone can join and start logging the chats, encryption does nothing. It has the ability to connect over TLS, but that's about it. I loved using it for its simplicity, except when using all the different flavours of nick registration (Q, NickServ, ...). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago My friends created a telegram group and invited in a couple of bots that do stupid things like posting images or vulgarities when they detect certain words, or perform actions on request. I tried to convince them to get rid of the bots but they're in the "we have nothing to hide" camp. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago There is some nuance here. It would be nice to not have your identity publicly linked to your IP address, which is not always the default on IRC. That's the main privacy concern I know about I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago My friends created a telegram group and invited in a couple of bots that do stupid things like posting images or vulgarities when they detect certain words, or perform actions on request. I tried to convince them to get rid of the bots but they're in the "we have nothing to hide" camp. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago There is some nuance here. It would be nice to not have your identity publicly linked to your IP address, which is not always the default on IRC. That's the main privacy concern I know about I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Define secure. You can run your own network. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago xmpp isn't. (Ok I get xmpp alone is but every modern client supports the same two encryption methods so judge for yourself) permalink fedilink source parent