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[–] 29 points 3 years ago (24 children)

I'm far from a Luddite and I think robots in general are cool. But I kind of don't have an issue with people fucking up autonomous roaming robots. I haven't rationalized that opinion just yet, I guess. Just feels right.

Philly did nothing wrong

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    I don't think waving away being a Luddite just by saying so makes it so.

    I can't think of a single angle of principled moral theory that makes this okay. Vandalizing or stealing someone else's property they paid for. Hurting both the restaurant and the customer by depriving them of their food. Holding back progress on an invention that can reduce the need for humans to engage in a type of work that is hard, dangerous at times, and low paid.

    From a purely rational on paper view, it doesn't look terribly different than saying vandalizing or stealing from delivery vehicles driven by people isn't wrong. What possible justification could there be for this view besides Ludditism fuck robots?

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  • [+] 24 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Maybe just overturn them so it becomes unprofitable?

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  • [+] -14 points 3 years ago

    groans

    I don’t think waving away being a Luddite just by saying so makes it so.

    Guess you know me better than I know myself.

    From a purely rational on paper view, it doesn’t look terribly different than saying vandalizing or stealing from delivery vehicles driven by people isn’t wrong. What possible justification could there be for this view besides Ludditism fuck robots?

    Imagine thinking humans are rational beings the debate ethics every time they have a feeling. Sometimes you just gotta fuck shit up.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Under captialism we lament robots taking our jobs, where under a better system we would be rejoicing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Do you mean the system where people would have the opportunity to cook better food for themselves instead of ordering fast food and paying exorbitant fees to have it delivered?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    You okay with people fucking up vending machines and ATMs too? Why or why not?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Not OP, but I would like to state that I am ok with that. You pulled a human out of the loop, and that comes with risks. Business decision.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Wouldn't this justify vandalizing any type of machine whatsoever? Get in an elevator and nobody is looking? Stab the control panel so they have to get a human in the future making the elevator. See a car and no one is looking? Set it on fire so they have to use a human pulled rickshaw instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    You're all making logical ethics arguments on a flippant emotional comment I made. You ever just have intrusive thoughts that make you just want to fuck some shit up? That's what these robots make me feel.

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  • [+] -13 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    The rational could be that those robots are taking the job of a human being and deserve to be robbed...

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Using cars to deliver food pays very little, is dangerous (old guy with shotgun shoots your brains if you go to the wrong house), and is extremely bad for the environment. Current delivery workers could switch to a safer job with better pay and not damage the environment as much. Or we can implement UBI. Just a thought.

    Edit: I would also like to point out a robot’s electric bill for a trip is much cheaper when compared to a gas or even an electric car. Ideally, the savings would be passed along to the customer.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I hate this argument... Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a job that pays a livable wage?

    People aren't dealing with the dangers of delivery because they are lazy or unmotivated, they are doing it because they need the work and it pays barely enough to meet their needs.

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