▲ 675 ▼ "Why are young people not having children?!" (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 year ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world [M] to c/childfree@lemmy.world 87 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source thread
[–] frazw@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago (8 children) "Baby rescued from apartment after single-mother tragically died days earlier" Didn't think it was that difficult permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's not, but then the headline wouldn't subconsciously bias you towards rage clicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jj4211@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think the headline would make you rage click, it's pretty neutral. The over the top reaction to said headline however... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) It's subtle, but it's absolutely designed to induce feelings of negative emotions to evoke a click. If you'd like to look into this field of study, search up "shadow patterns" or " dark patterns" as that's the modern design language meant for working with data on mass scale in order to drive engagement. (To the down voter, the fact you can't see it is both sad and the point of the design. Unfortunate because it's true. I've sat in these design meetings with software teams and marketing.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Infant only suspect in mother's mysterious death permalink fedilink source parent [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago They don't know she was a single mother. They don't know who she was because they weren't told. The father could have been on a business trip for all we know. That proposed headline injects one plausible guess as to why the baby would have been alone, but without any actual data to back it up. It also fails to indicate that the baby was alone. You try to imply it by 'single mother', but whose to say that there wasn't someone else in the house that might have been important, like a sibling or extended family member? The detail that the infant was alone was key, but omitted in your version. Of course it's awkward to try to indicate the baby was alone without using the word 'left' in the context of a headline appropriate short sentence. They could have injected the word "tragically" before dies for a bit more consideration, though people can see that the tragedy is pretty self evident. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) I think that's a worse headline because it doesn't involve the sad imagery of a baby alone for 4 days. "Tragic" is a kitschy word to include in a headline. And neither your headline nor the one in the meme place the mother up-front. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazw@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Well ... Full disclosure. I'm not a journalist permalink fedilink source parent [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) As someone else in the comment section pointed out, this death and the infant's precarious situation probably could have been avoided if America's shitty for-profit healthcare system wasn't such a god awful shit show. The original headline ignores the mother all together to put the focus completely on the child, seeking to engage potential readers with ragebait only to throw cold water on them in the article where they disclose the death of the mother. All in order to completely sidestep any discussion of why exactly a new mother would suddenly die in our country "with the greatest healthcare in the world!" A statistic that is becoming more and more common. Edit: there's also an overly heavy focus on dumping praise on the cops, which is ridiculous since they were simply doing their job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's not, but then the headline wouldn't subconsciously bias you towards rage clicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jj4211@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think the headline would make you rage click, it's pretty neutral. The over the top reaction to said headline however... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) It's subtle, but it's absolutely designed to induce feelings of negative emotions to evoke a click. If you'd like to look into this field of study, search up "shadow patterns" or " dark patterns" as that's the modern design language meant for working with data on mass scale in order to drive engagement. (To the down voter, the fact you can't see it is both sad and the point of the design. Unfortunate because it's true. I've sat in these design meetings with software teams and marketing.) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jj4211@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think the headline would make you rage click, it's pretty neutral. The over the top reaction to said headline however... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) It's subtle, but it's absolutely designed to induce feelings of negative emotions to evoke a click. If you'd like to look into this field of study, search up "shadow patterns" or " dark patterns" as that's the modern design language meant for working with data on mass scale in order to drive engagement. (To the down voter, the fact you can't see it is both sad and the point of the design. Unfortunate because it's true. I've sat in these design meetings with software teams and marketing.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) It's subtle, but it's absolutely designed to induce feelings of negative emotions to evoke a click. If you'd like to look into this field of study, search up "shadow patterns" or " dark patterns" as that's the modern design language meant for working with data on mass scale in order to drive engagement. (To the down voter, the fact you can't see it is both sad and the point of the design. Unfortunate because it's true. I've sat in these design meetings with software teams and marketing.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Infant only suspect in mother's mysterious death permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago They don't know she was a single mother. They don't know who she was because they weren't told. The father could have been on a business trip for all we know. That proposed headline injects one plausible guess as to why the baby would have been alone, but without any actual data to back it up. It also fails to indicate that the baby was alone. You try to imply it by 'single mother', but whose to say that there wasn't someone else in the house that might have been important, like a sibling or extended family member? The detail that the infant was alone was key, but omitted in your version. Of course it's awkward to try to indicate the baby was alone without using the word 'left' in the context of a headline appropriate short sentence. They could have injected the word "tragically" before dies for a bit more consideration, though people can see that the tragedy is pretty self evident. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) I think that's a worse headline because it doesn't involve the sad imagery of a baby alone for 4 days. "Tragic" is a kitschy word to include in a headline. And neither your headline nor the one in the meme place the mother up-front. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazw@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Well ... Full disclosure. I'm not a journalist permalink fedilink source parent [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) As someone else in the comment section pointed out, this death and the infant's precarious situation probably could have been avoided if America's shitty for-profit healthcare system wasn't such a god awful shit show. The original headline ignores the mother all together to put the focus completely on the child, seeking to engage potential readers with ragebait only to throw cold water on them in the article where they disclose the death of the mother. All in order to completely sidestep any discussion of why exactly a new mother would suddenly die in our country "with the greatest healthcare in the world!" A statistic that is becoming more and more common. Edit: there's also an overly heavy focus on dumping praise on the cops, which is ridiculous since they were simply doing their job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frazw@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Well ... Full disclosure. I'm not a journalist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) As someone else in the comment section pointed out, this death and the infant's precarious situation probably could have been avoided if America's shitty for-profit healthcare system wasn't such a god awful shit show. The original headline ignores the mother all together to put the focus completely on the child, seeking to engage potential readers with ragebait only to throw cold water on them in the article where they disclose the death of the mother. All in order to completely sidestep any discussion of why exactly a new mother would suddenly die in our country "with the greatest healthcare in the world!" A statistic that is becoming more and more common. Edit: there's also an overly heavy focus on dumping praise on the cops, which is ridiculous since they were simply doing their job. permalink fedilink source parent