Biggest city in the US to biggest city in Canada, at a distance where high speed rail could be the best choice of it existed …

• I see “3” daily departures from NYC for Toronto by train, sort of. Travel time is 12h, 29h, 34h,
• For flying, I see 24 direct flights on the first page of my search, all under 2h, all cheaper than train
• Or an 8h drive

Even as someone who really wants to take the train, that’s not under consideration

I'm someone who prefers to drive because I don't like people much and flying is now a miserable experience, but yes, when you tally up all the time it takes to go to the airport, park, go through security, and then fly (especially if there's a layover tacked on), you really don't save much time in the end.

If I were a European and train service was more feasible, I'd go that route. It's really only a convenient option on the East Coast here.

To me, flying is just not worth it.