▲ 605 ▼ Nobody takes a train from Germany to France (lemmy.skoops.social) submitted 1 year ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 201 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.skoops.social/post/727 crossposted: https://lemmy.skoops.social/post/665 Oh boy...
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (2 children) I have my beef with the DB, but their ICE trains paired with SNCF are nothing to complain about permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I took an ICE last week between Strasbourg and Paris. It was ok overall but there was a big lack of storage for luggages compared to a TGV. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) ok overall That's a huge compliment for the DB. The fact that they can run the bare minimum services at all between cities within reasonable time frames genuinely amazes me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For anybody wondering, why DB being able to meet minimum service is so incredible, it is rather simple. Both passenger and freight demand in Germany have grown over the last decades. However the government did rarely invest in new track or even repairs of old railway infrastructure. Basically Germany needs a high speed rail network parallel to the exisiting slower lines to meet demand, as well as some additional freight lines. Without that DB has no chance in hell to actually be a good rail provider. So the fact that they can somewhat meet demand is an incredible achievement by DB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean I was just ragging on their absolute gobshite regional services, but yeah fair point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 year ago* Once you expirenced an SNCF+ICE connection taking 5 hours instead of the planned 2h you will have something to complain about. I love shitting on DB as much as the next one, but they are worlds better than the SNCF. I'd rather fly than deal with French trains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I took an ICE last week between Strasbourg and Paris. It was ok overall but there was a big lack of storage for luggages compared to a TGV. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) ok overall That's a huge compliment for the DB. The fact that they can run the bare minimum services at all between cities within reasonable time frames genuinely amazes me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For anybody wondering, why DB being able to meet minimum service is so incredible, it is rather simple. Both passenger and freight demand in Germany have grown over the last decades. However the government did rarely invest in new track or even repairs of old railway infrastructure. Basically Germany needs a high speed rail network parallel to the exisiting slower lines to meet demand, as well as some additional freight lines. Without that DB has no chance in hell to actually be a good rail provider. So the fact that they can somewhat meet demand is an incredible achievement by DB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean I was just ragging on their absolute gobshite regional services, but yeah fair point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) ok overall That's a huge compliment for the DB. The fact that they can run the bare minimum services at all between cities within reasonable time frames genuinely amazes me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For anybody wondering, why DB being able to meet minimum service is so incredible, it is rather simple. Both passenger and freight demand in Germany have grown over the last decades. However the government did rarely invest in new track or even repairs of old railway infrastructure. Basically Germany needs a high speed rail network parallel to the exisiting slower lines to meet demand, as well as some additional freight lines. Without that DB has no chance in hell to actually be a good rail provider. So the fact that they can somewhat meet demand is an incredible achievement by DB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean I was just ragging on their absolute gobshite regional services, but yeah fair point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For anybody wondering, why DB being able to meet minimum service is so incredible, it is rather simple. Both passenger and freight demand in Germany have grown over the last decades. However the government did rarely invest in new track or even repairs of old railway infrastructure. Basically Germany needs a high speed rail network parallel to the exisiting slower lines to meet demand, as well as some additional freight lines. Without that DB has no chance in hell to actually be a good rail provider. So the fact that they can somewhat meet demand is an incredible achievement by DB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean I was just ragging on their absolute gobshite regional services, but yeah fair point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean I was just ragging on their absolute gobshite regional services, but yeah fair point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago The regional service sucks to a large part due to a lack of capacity on German main lines. Regional trains and freight trains run at about the same speed, which is great for capacity. However high speed trains are faster and therefore need to overtake them. You need to plan for that, which require additional capacity. In other words, when you take ICE trains of the old main lines, you massivly improve regional rail as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 year ago* Once you expirenced an SNCF+ICE connection taking 5 hours instead of the planned 2h you will have something to complain about. I love shitting on DB as much as the next one, but they are worlds better than the SNCF. I'd rather fly than deal with French trains. permalink fedilink source parent
