All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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[–] 34 points 3 years ago (25 children)

My current device and the two before that all have had removable batteries. I've always thought built in batteries are stupid and it's nice to finally notice that other people agree. Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver and spare parts must be able to be purchased straight from the manufacturer.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    Ya the only reason I get new phones is because the battery gets too weak. I could easily keep the same device for 5+ years if I could swap batteries

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    The only reason I get new phones is cos OS updates stop flowing. That happens way before I notice any battery degradation. This law solves nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I'm an android guy but you can solve that problem by going iPhone if so inclined

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    Really? How long does Apple support iPhones?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Samsung and Google support their current generation phones for five years. Apple supports theirs for seven years from when they're last sold.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You can. It cost $15 every three years to have someone replace the battery for you or you can spend the hour doing it yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver

    It does include that, mostly. It says that any tools that aren't commonly available without proprietary rights or restrictions (i.e. screwdrivers) have to be provided by the manufacturers free of charge

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  • [+] -12 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery. I’ll need to change my battery maybe once every 3 years, but I need to know it can handle moisture far more often than that.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery

    You can have both. My Galaxy XCover 6Pro is ip68 rated.

    The another benefit with removable batteries is that if you have two you can go from 0 to 100% charge in about a minute.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    This is why I want replaceable batteries in small EVs like bikes and such, too.

    And why I have thought for a while that it would be nice to have maybe 30% or so of electric car batteries be replacable with a moderately large rack in the "frunk" or trunk. But that's just me.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Most of the ebikes and motor scooters I've seen have removable batteries. Gogoro in India even has a battery swapping network for their scooters.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Gogoro's existence is kinda bittersweet, it shows that it's possible, but that companies aren't willing to standardize and cooperate to make it the status quo and actually possible to build swap stations for globally, of even across just Europe.

    Ideally I'd want to see a plan where an e-bike or electric kickscooter takes one or two, and motorcycles take a few more. Idk if you could make batteries in that form-factor and put 12 or so into a car to gain enough miles to make a difference. Perhaps eventually, if we get the energy density gains we're hoping for.

    Car-wise, I have no expectation that the industry will shift towards low weight and drag like Aptera is pushing for, so I don't expect efficiency gains that way.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This isn't a replacement, but I have said for years now that someone needs to market a rentable tow-behind or rooftop battery sort of like U-Hauls for extra capacity needed for longer trips.

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