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This is how we should be selling redistribution (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/peoplebluesky@lemmy.world
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https://www.aol.com/wealth-evenly-distributed-across-america-120133820.html

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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Doing it over world wealth/population (454385÷8.2) gives 55,412 USD per capita, which tell how skewed is wealth in the US.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If we could figure out how to distribute food efficiently and how to build housing units efficiently -- in the sense of actually getting that done -- $55k ought to be a perfectly acceptable amount of money for everyone.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Now you know why redistribution won't happpen. The fucking tankies won't be happy with limiting redistribution to the nation. They don't want national, they want international socialism.

    In that scenario, it's better to keep going as before. Whatever people have now, the ones who can implement the change have more than 55,412 USD.

    Tankies even have a word for it, if workers earn more than the average: Labor aristocracy.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_aristocracy

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    What is this obsession with the term "tankies" on Lemmy nowadays? Fled here from Reddit because it had turned into a quagmire of American politics, rage and misery. The others fleeing seem to have brought it with them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What is this obsession with the term “tankies” on Lemmy nowadays? Fled here from Reddit because it had turned into a quagmire of American politics, rage and misery. The others fleeing seem to have brought it with them.

    First, welcome to your second month on Lemmy!

    Second, a cool part about Lemmy/fediverse isn't that it is only one place with one core ideology. You and I are both on Lemmy.world which is a mildly left leaning general topics and population instance. However, federation means users from other instances post in lemmy.world communities ( = subreddits) like the one we're in right now commenting on Bluesky posts. Many of those other lemmy instances were created specifically to cultivate a particular ideology or mindsets. Just because a user is from a different instance with a known ideological slant doesn't mean that user subscribes to all the ideas, but its usually a good starting indication. When users from some of these more "passionate" instances post to communities outside of their instance, they frequently bring their ideology with them and turn or twist the conversations unrelated to their ideology to their ideology.

    So back to your question on "tankies", there is an instance or two that are highly correlated with socialist ideas and are frequently accused of painting authoritarianism with socialism. This isn't an American thing either, most are unrelated to any US Politics.

    Since many instances were specifcally created around political ideology (again, not American), I don't think you'll fully escape political ideas here on Lemmy. However, if that is a concern for you, instances can block posts from instances known to only be focused on those political ideologies. After that you won't see posts from those communities or users.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the explanation, it's really helpful. Though I do appreciate open fora where all ideologies and viewpoints can converge and discuss in a peaceful manner, what I don't like is the otherization, polarization and labeling of those not sharing someone's opinions. I hope the discourse climate will move in the right direction soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am sorry. It was meant as a dark joke but totally flopped.

    The link is still helpful. There is not much room for improvement if the current situation is good enough for most people.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    No worries, I've told my fair share of compete flops, many of them in front of everyone at work. 😆

    I think the phrase we're looking for is panem et circenses; bread and circus. That's the delicate balance the powers that be are using to keep the general populace complacent. Any developed society is three meals away from collapse, but when we have a steady supply of junk food and Netflix binges coming our way, we're just too comfortable to care.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Tankies" are a propagandist bogeyman to con fence-sitters into siding with brownshirts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tankies are fascist worshippers who claim to also hate capitalism. They LIKE brownshirts

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What a ridiculous and ignorant thing to say. It's hard not to laugh.

    • The dedicated organization in 1930s Germany for beating up the brownsharts was founded by a Stalinist party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
    • The counterinvasion and destruction of Nazi Germany is one of the tankies most celebrated historical achievements.
    • Present-day tankies are strongly involved in anti-fascist organization worldwide.
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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The creator of Lemmy is a tankie. Lemmy.ml is full of tankie losers.

    People who unironically think the DPRK is a successful nation.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's not hard to detect your animosity towards tankies, I'd venture to say you identify them as enemies. Question is: What are your criteria for someone else to be defined as what you call a "tankie loser"? Have those criteria gradually narrowed over the years?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What are you some tankie loser?

    There is nothing acceptable about their ideology, just like Nazis but on the “leftist” spectrum.

    Anybody that supports the DPRK as a successful nation is a fucking moron. Period.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And what you're doing there is often called red-tagging; baselessly accusing whichever person is disagreeing with you or being inconvenient of being a communist in order to "win the argument". Common practice in places with either authoritarian rule or corrupted democracies, such as the US and the Philippines. A very poor strategy, though - it only reveals that you have nothing to show.

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