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A FATAL Mistake (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[+] 97 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)
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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "If you want to make a racist and misogynistic game, at least make it fun" - Gygax, probably

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Was this Genesis or Deuteronomy?

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    the issue ... isn't just that it's ... horrifically racist and misogynistic, it's also a terrible game

    It's funny, but it seems like I read this phrase a lot, and not just about games (book series, movies, shows, etc). I can't think of any other good examples off the top of my head, but it seems that every time an artist takes a really cool or interesting concept and fills it with bigotry, they also fill it with poorly written mechanics, potholes, clunky dialogue...

    Sure, there's media with language that doesn't age well, but it seems like 9/10, when something is made with blatant hate, there isn't even an incentive to try to push past or ignore it; the content is garbage with or without the drivel. The initial concept is just good enough to get people to want to give it a shot.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    A lot of old stuff is super racist and well made. The Birth of A Nation was revolutionary in film and influenced many future movies despite literally being a movie about how awesome the KKK are. Lovecraft was famously racist as fuck and a lot of his "Eldritch horror" was sort of a metaphor for his fears of "primitive" religions and miscegenation. Even Lord of the Rings has racist elements - JRR Tolkein said in multiple occasions that he based the dwarves on Jews, which is pretty rough to modern readers given that the dwarves are more obsessed with gold and treasure than anything else.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Even Lord of the Rings has racist elements - JRR Tolkein said in multiple occasions that he based the dwarves on Jews

    I don't doubt this, given the era the man was born, but have you got a source? I tried digging something up, and the only things I can find are that Khuzdul is based on Hebrew, and a lot of letters during and post WWII speaking highly of Jews and poorly of Hitler and the Nazis.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There's another all-time-worst game called Racial Holy War, which is exactly what you'd assume from the title. And yes, it's incompetently made to the point where they didn't include mechanics for ATTACKING.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I think that what's happening here is that

    1. The vast majority of any is poorly made, but because there are better alternatives, the poorly made ones rarely see the light of day

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    1. The more specialized or niche something is, the more likely it is to stand out despite being poorly made

    This includes racist garbage and weird fetishes, yes, but also any other game whose main selling point is its uniqueness instead of its quality.

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