▲ 248 ▼ Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service (www.forbes.com) submitted 2 years ago by Fitik@fedia.io to c/opensource@programming.dev 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments "Thundermail" will be part of a suite of Thunderbird Pro services, as the team behind the venerable Mozilla email client begins building a complete ecosystem.
[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (5 children) Idk, not too keen on supporting a US company rn permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Especially one that’s now selling your data. If Mozilla did this instead of selling our personal information, that would have been great. But here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pohart@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* They were selling my data in exactly the way I thought they were. I thought they were pretty open about their funding sources and we're just inaccurate on the description on the privacy policy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Can you explain what you mean by selling your data? I'm not intimately familiar with the controversy, but it was my understanding that they're not really selling it, it's just some weird legal ramifications that come with the term "selling" or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They tried to weasel out of saying that they sell your data, claiming that the CA law has an absurd definition. But the CA law just defines the term how any reasonable person would: the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.” So yes, they’re selling your data, and CA law is finally forcing them to admit it, rather than continuing to lie about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago* It's the "making available" and "for other consideration" lines that they are covering their ass over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Especially one that’s now selling your data. If Mozilla did this instead of selling our personal information, that would have been great. But here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pohart@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* They were selling my data in exactly the way I thought they were. I thought they were pretty open about their funding sources and we're just inaccurate on the description on the privacy policy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Can you explain what you mean by selling your data? I'm not intimately familiar with the controversy, but it was my understanding that they're not really selling it, it's just some weird legal ramifications that come with the term "selling" or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They tried to weasel out of saying that they sell your data, claiming that the CA law has an absurd definition. But the CA law just defines the term how any reasonable person would: the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.” So yes, they’re selling your data, and CA law is finally forcing them to admit it, rather than continuing to lie about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago* It's the "making available" and "for other consideration" lines that they are covering their ass over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pohart@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* They were selling my data in exactly the way I thought they were. I thought they were pretty open about their funding sources and we're just inaccurate on the description on the privacy policy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Can you explain what you mean by selling your data? I'm not intimately familiar with the controversy, but it was my understanding that they're not really selling it, it's just some weird legal ramifications that come with the term "selling" or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They tried to weasel out of saying that they sell your data, claiming that the CA law has an absurd definition. But the CA law just defines the term how any reasonable person would: the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.” So yes, they’re selling your data, and CA law is finally forcing them to admit it, rather than continuing to lie about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago* It's the "making available" and "for other consideration" lines that they are covering their ass over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They tried to weasel out of saying that they sell your data, claiming that the CA law has an absurd definition. But the CA law just defines the term how any reasonable person would: the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.” So yes, they’re selling your data, and CA law is finally forcing them to admit it, rather than continuing to lie about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago* It's the "making available" and "for other consideration" lines that they are covering their ass over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago* It's the "making available" and "for other consideration" lines that they are covering their ass over. permalink fedilink source parent