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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Lots of us are mad and just don't know what to do. One at a time we get arrested or shot. It takes a group effort but nothing has crystallized yet.

I got two kids under 4, I'm not lining up to get my ticket punched just to get the ball rolling.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Exactly. In Ukraine parents fight and die so their 4 year old will have a country to return to. In the US they let their souls die instead and leave their kids to fight their own battles.

You are a nation of Uvalde cops.

Downvote me. Argue. In your hearts you all know it is true. You are broken. You were clearly broken since at least the 90s when you met Columbine with platitudes instead of tens of millions of mothers on the streets screaming in pain.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

I'm not going to downvote you. Suggest an action.

Edit: And inspire us by what you are doing besides flaming on the Internet. I'm sure you must be doing something, rather than standing by passing the buck? Right?

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone -2 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

Thankfully I live in a rich liberal democracy where over 90% vote and we still have a fairly decent though far from perfect society.

I can be outraged by what Americans let happen to their country because I'm human and a parent but I can't help and shouldn't help. American society needs to find its own solutions, in its own time and on terms it can live with.

You can't pass this off onto me.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

In no way am I trying to pass the buck, but it's easy to do nothing and bitch on the Internet. It's a lot harder to be the first one to do something.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

Sorry, but I think you and those like you are deflecting. I still see posts from Americans saying this wasn't us. We are nice people. We have no power. It is crazy. Why are you even online telling us this? You think we blame you personally?

I live in the other side of the planet. If I am going to help anyone its going to be some poor unfortunate struggling with poverty, war and genocide imposed on them.

Not delusional people from the richest country on earth who had everything and lack the will to influence their own fate.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You don't have to apologize it sucks for us as much or more than it sucks for you.

It's easy to gripe on the Internet for anybody and it's much harder to act. In a country like the US, where do you even start? It is huge, the military has more money than god, and the police force is by and large the little brother of the military but with way less oversight and more dysfunction. You want to stop a city once? Sure, np big deal. You want to bring this country to heel? That takes coordination.

It's really easy to talk if you are in western Europe where your country is the size of one middle of the road US state and you've got 8 months of vacation a year. Same if your country has like 8 cities total because basically 3/4 of your nation/continent is uninhabitable. You do not share the same problems of scale. Period. At all. I could go out tomorrow and get killed for no reason, but what purpose does that serve?

I'm glad you have a good view from your high horse. Consider doing something more than watch, because you know what? You could be next. I'm here asking for tips and tricks and you're in AUS looking down your nose while you suck your own dick. Real cool man.

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[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Here's an idea: Try to push a #OccupyBillionaires or #OccupyMansions movement.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And if people think they are alone and have no power perhaps consider reading books about Abolishionists, Underground Railroad, Suffragettes, Labour Unions, Socialists, the Civil Rights Movement, Gay rights, Anti-war protests, Environmentalists and all the other ordinary Americans who made a fucking effort and delivered real improvements to peoples every day lives while the thoughts and prayers brigade wasted the last decade taking selfies and lamenting their disenfranchisement on social media. The template is there. Just read a fucking book.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey let's go broski. Are you right or aren't you? Are you giving up because all of AUS is like #3 to all US states by population? It's so easy: whatever works for AUS you only have to work for 13 TIMES the population in the US and then you win. Look how fuckin easy it is! Where are you? Your parents house? Surely they have Internet too.

Edit: or MAYBE you can be humble, STFU and try to help? Otherwise you can keep being a pretentious knob, and nobody will know it but us. By balance of probability your only like 13 anyway. Today I'm not feeling so charitable to dickbags.

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[+] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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