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[–] 28 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Negotiations without security assurances*

This is the prime stickler with the USA-Ukraine deal that has been discussed on the news

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Putin needs to lose something or he'll just invade someone else.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    He only ever invades in response to NATO expansion. Maybe the west should stop trying to move in.

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    Which Putin invasion was not preceded by another NATO expansion?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The invasion of Crimea and Ukraine. New NATO members joined after that happened in response.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Crimea happened after the US overthrew the government of Ukraine, and installed a far-right regime.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Don't move the goal post. You asked, you got a reply. You don't like that reply because of how trivially it calls out your bullshit, and you're clearly not adult enough to handle that, but you still got called out on bullshit.

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