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US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources. (neuters.de)
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[–] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

All Amerikans deserve this and worse because they sit at home and complain online while a literal textbook definition of a coup is happening to their country. The country that literally screeches at the top of its lungs about the second amendment and right to have a gun “in case of a tyrannical government”. Not a single shot fired. No protests, just complaints. Y’all gave up your country without a fight.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We’re definitely protesting. It may not make international news, but every day there are angry crowds outside government buildings or in the streets of our cities. The last I went to was this past Monday in NY and there were at least a few thousand of us. Personally I think we need more serious measures but protesting is a start.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’ve gone out of my way to look for coverage of any sort of protesting. I saw a single day of scattered small-medium protests called 50501 or something a couple weeks ago. That’s it. Angry crowds in front of government buildings doesn’t sound like serious protests given the sheer amount of what’s been going on in that country.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I hear you, and I agree there’s a lot more that needs to be done. I can say with some confidence that the average American doesn’t want any of this in the slightest, even if the average American isn’t as politically engaged as they need to be to truly understand the global implications.

    The truth is that the average American is mostly thinking about immediate problems in their own life, like how to pay both their rent and their phone bill and still afford gas to get to the grocery store where many staples are increasingly expensive.

    Even something as important as voting or protesting can feel like a privilege for the well-off when it’s the choice between that and working a shift to pay bills, and of course voting has been made deliberately difficult in most states. Voter registration isn’t automatic, for example. Likewise Election Day isn’t a National Holiday, so many people have to take off work if they don’t plan ahead to register, apply to vote absentee and meet deadlines for ballot mail-in.

    Basically I’m just trying to encourage you to remember your neighbors are normal people who actually do value being good neighbors. They are oppressed and deceived, however, and a small portion of them are straight up brainwashed by a cult.

    I hope, trust, and believe that when the chips fall, people in this country will answer the call to fight the global oppressors for themselves and others, because deep down they know that we’re all in this together. First they must lift their heads and see, a difficult process which I think has finally begun.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Look I know you mean well and you have a lot of faith and love for your people and that reflects really well on you.

    What I gather from your message is that people don’t like this but also don’t have a sense of urgency but you are strong in your faith that at the last minute there will be a sudden moment where everyone will leap into action to stop the worst. Things don’t work that way.

    There is an active coup of your country right now at this moment. It’s maybe not clear to you as a citizen because you’re inside the boiling pot but to those outside, these things don’t happen without being a coup. Yall even have a constitutional amendment for this exact moment.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I understand the terror of watching this unfold from the outside, if only because many people I love on the inside are facing these new horrors directly. Some wouldn’t even call it new, just a more explicit and sweeping abandonment of our crumbling democratic sociopolitical facade.

    Things don’t work that way.

    But they do. When it comes to collective action, especially when so many are effectively kept in the dark, revolutions progress slowly then all at once. For example the French Revolution didn’t attain critical mass with the general populace until the treasury was literally empty and the government couldn’t pay its bills. Even then it took many bloody years to stabilize into its modern liberal democratic form.

    By comparison, the intent of this new regime, while obvious to anyone paying attention, has only been truly manifest for a few breathless weeks. Though it takes time for the light to break through all the disinformation bubbles and dawn on the general populace, it is finally happening.

    I too want it to happen more quickly, and feel every bit of urgency you do, but the truth is it takes people like you and me working together to mobilize others, because this is just one expression of a global crisis, with global roots, that can only be solved with global collective action. Blaming the oppressed and deceived people of democracies that fall is understandable, since everyone thinks “that couldn’t happen here” while it certainly can and has been for years. It’s self-defeating, however, because we can only win this fight together.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    we're not ignorant of what's going on. we live here. you're blaming people who literally are just trying to make it.

    we are trying. but all this call to arms for those that can't fight is redirecting attention away from those who are responsible for this.

    the ones actually responsible.

    quit trying to light a fire under people who are already burning.

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