▲ 1375 ▼ Native American Restaurants (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 2 years ago by florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 188 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) shooting bison and smallpox blankets say hello permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criitz@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago We count that in the genocide permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 years ago my point is it is completely fair to say white America killed the vast majority of the natives whitewashingly pedantic to blame the gun and not the man pulling the trigger permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (11 children) Active or not, the Europeans and then the Americans caused the collapse of their civilization. Imo all deaths are related. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (4 children) I have a suspicion that if it weren't for all the disease the colonizers would have destroyed them anyway. Also nobody intentionally made them deathly ill? Smallpox blankets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're not wrong. However, it is worth pointing out that the documented "smallpox blankets" stuff happened in the 1700s and 1800s, which was already a century or two after the continent had been greatly depopulated by diseases spread unintentionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Measles, syphillis, rubella, mumps, chickenpox even. chickenpox is especially dangerous to adults who never had it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Guns, Germs, & Steel"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess my sticking point is, does it matter if it was intentional? Contact with Europe destroyed them from both accidents and outright malice. It was still genocide even if it was on accident, imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago smallpox being one, there is evidence smallpox originated from horses, which were abundant in europe, horses had thier own pox virus.(and going back further it came from an unknown rodent host. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tyfud@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) shooting bison and smallpox blankets say hello permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criitz@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago We count that in the genocide permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 years ago my point is it is completely fair to say white America killed the vast majority of the natives whitewashingly pedantic to blame the gun and not the man pulling the trigger permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criitz@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago We count that in the genocide permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 years ago my point is it is completely fair to say white America killed the vast majority of the natives whitewashingly pedantic to blame the gun and not the man pulling the trigger permalink fedilink source parent
[–] criitz@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago We count that in the genocide permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 years ago my point is it is completely fair to say white America killed the vast majority of the natives whitewashingly pedantic to blame the gun and not the man pulling the trigger permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (11 children) Active or not, the Europeans and then the Americans caused the collapse of their civilization. Imo all deaths are related. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (4 children) I have a suspicion that if it weren't for all the disease the colonizers would have destroyed them anyway. Also nobody intentionally made them deathly ill? Smallpox blankets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're not wrong. However, it is worth pointing out that the documented "smallpox blankets" stuff happened in the 1700s and 1800s, which was already a century or two after the continent had been greatly depopulated by diseases spread unintentionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Measles, syphillis, rubella, mumps, chickenpox even. chickenpox is especially dangerous to adults who never had it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Guns, Germs, & Steel"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess my sticking point is, does it matter if it was intentional? Contact with Europe destroyed them from both accidents and outright malice. It was still genocide even if it was on accident, imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago smallpox being one, there is evidence smallpox originated from horses, which were abundant in europe, horses had thier own pox virus.(and going back further it came from an unknown rodent host. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (4 children) I have a suspicion that if it weren't for all the disease the colonizers would have destroyed them anyway. Also nobody intentionally made them deathly ill? Smallpox blankets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're not wrong. However, it is worth pointing out that the documented "smallpox blankets" stuff happened in the 1700s and 1800s, which was already a century or two after the continent had been greatly depopulated by diseases spread unintentionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Measles, syphillis, rubella, mumps, chickenpox even. chickenpox is especially dangerous to adults who never had it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Guns, Germs, & Steel"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess my sticking point is, does it matter if it was intentional? Contact with Europe destroyed them from both accidents and outright malice. It was still genocide even if it was on accident, imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago smallpox being one, there is evidence smallpox originated from horses, which were abundant in europe, horses had thier own pox virus.(and going back further it came from an unknown rodent host. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (4 children) I have a suspicion that if it weren't for all the disease the colonizers would have destroyed them anyway. Also nobody intentionally made them deathly ill? Smallpox blankets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're not wrong. However, it is worth pointing out that the documented "smallpox blankets" stuff happened in the 1700s and 1800s, which was already a century or two after the continent had been greatly depopulated by diseases spread unintentionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Measles, syphillis, rubella, mumps, chickenpox even. chickenpox is especially dangerous to adults who never had it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're not wrong. However, it is worth pointing out that the documented "smallpox blankets" stuff happened in the 1700s and 1800s, which was already a century or two after the continent had been greatly depopulated by diseases spread unintentionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Good point, I didn't think about that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Measles, syphillis, rubella, mumps, chickenpox even. chickenpox is especially dangerous to adults who never had it. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Guns, Germs, & Steel"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess my sticking point is, does it matter if it was intentional? Contact with Europe destroyed them from both accidents and outright malice. It was still genocide even if it was on accident, imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago smallpox being one, there is evidence smallpox originated from horses, which were abundant in europe, horses had thier own pox virus.(and going back further it came from an unknown rodent host. permalink fedilink source parent
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