▲ 368 ▼ Meta's upcoming AcitivityPub-enabled app Threads will only come with an "import from Mastodon" option. The new network won't federate on day one. (mastodon.social) submitted 3 years ago by giallo@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 119 comments fedilink hide all child comments Full report is on The Verge.
[–] Kara@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) Yeah, it is very possible for us to not let Meta win. Acting like the Fediverse is doomed isn't productive at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QHC@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago It's not even that, just change your perspective so whatever Meta is doing or not doing is irrelevant. They can't "win" if we are on a different field playing the same sport with different players and our own equipment. Even if they have better equipment and 40,000 fans to our 1,500 that doesn't mean our thing isn't happening and meeting our needs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CynAq@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd say it's exactly as productive as saying "It's no big deal if Meta joins the fediverse, It'll be fiiiiiine". We should watch everything very carefully. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Explain how they would impact our communities if we defederate their instances from ours. Spoiler: They can't. There is zero reason to freak out. If you don't want to be affected by Meta then don't join an instance that federates with them. Boom. You're done. Problem solved. That's the beauty of the fediverse choose your flavor. They are going to have more users, that's just a fact. They already have more users than us, but we still have these healthy and active communities. They could have 30 billion more users and we still don't lose as long as we have the communities we've built on our own instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jalda@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago "Explain how Google would impact XMPP servers if they defederate from Google Talk" Spoiler: They can permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Seems like you haven't read that article at all, otherwise you'd understand this already happened multiple times. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1st@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago It only doesn't matter if the majority of us are conscious of it and want to stop it. We need to place sanctions in a true democracy, that's not easy and it requires everybody be educated. We're lucky that we're still in the tail end of the early adopters phase so most people in the fediverse will be open to gaining education. Also both sides of the heavily populated fediverse (Lemmy and mastodon)* feel recently betrayed by corporate greed. All to say, it won't be a big deal as long as most people know what's going on. (I didn't before reading this.) *Not sure where to put kbin permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QHC@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago It's not even that, just change your perspective so whatever Meta is doing or not doing is irrelevant. They can't "win" if we are on a different field playing the same sport with different players and our own equipment. Even if they have better equipment and 40,000 fans to our 1,500 that doesn't mean our thing isn't happening and meeting our needs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CynAq@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd say it's exactly as productive as saying "It's no big deal if Meta joins the fediverse, It'll be fiiiiiine". We should watch everything very carefully. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Explain how they would impact our communities if we defederate their instances from ours. Spoiler: They can't. There is zero reason to freak out. If you don't want to be affected by Meta then don't join an instance that federates with them. Boom. You're done. Problem solved. That's the beauty of the fediverse choose your flavor. They are going to have more users, that's just a fact. They already have more users than us, but we still have these healthy and active communities. They could have 30 billion more users and we still don't lose as long as we have the communities we've built on our own instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jalda@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago "Explain how Google would impact XMPP servers if they defederate from Google Talk" Spoiler: They can permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Seems like you haven't read that article at all, otherwise you'd understand this already happened multiple times. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Explain how they would impact our communities if we defederate their instances from ours. Spoiler: They can't. There is zero reason to freak out. If you don't want to be affected by Meta then don't join an instance that federates with them. Boom. You're done. Problem solved. That's the beauty of the fediverse choose your flavor. They are going to have more users, that's just a fact. They already have more users than us, but we still have these healthy and active communities. They could have 30 billion more users and we still don't lose as long as we have the communities we've built on our own instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jalda@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago "Explain how Google would impact XMPP servers if they defederate from Google Talk" Spoiler: They can permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Seems like you haven't read that article at all, otherwise you'd understand this already happened multiple times. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jalda@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago "Explain how Google would impact XMPP servers if they defederate from Google Talk" Spoiler: They can permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Seems like you haven't read that article at all, otherwise you'd understand this already happened multiple times. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1st@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago It only doesn't matter if the majority of us are conscious of it and want to stop it. We need to place sanctions in a true democracy, that's not easy and it requires everybody be educated. We're lucky that we're still in the tail end of the early adopters phase so most people in the fediverse will be open to gaining education. Also both sides of the heavily populated fediverse (Lemmy and mastodon)* feel recently betrayed by corporate greed. All to say, it won't be a big deal as long as most people know what's going on. (I didn't before reading this.) *Not sure where to put kbin permalink fedilink source parent