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[+] Terminal_ERROR@lemm.ee -15 points 2 years ago (6 children) One should never rever Stalin or any authoritarian. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 2 years ago 🥱 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) counterpoint: everyone should read writings from every historical world leader, you will be in for a surprise. You'll find out that mainstream respected world leaders churchill and Teddy R almost echo hitler on their writings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Terminal_ERROR@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not saying that those people are great, don't pretend Stalin, the man that destroyed any hope of a effective socialist democracy, as a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago Regardless of one's view on Stalin, I don't think it's accurate to say he destroyed democracy within the Soviet Union. The Soviets, both during Stalin and after Stalin (and before) had a form of democracy called "Soviet Democracy." It was focused on electing delegates to serve at higher councils, called "Soviets." See this graphic for how it functioned: Also read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan if you are further interested. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago The early USSR policies built strong socialists foundations, without a highly developed industry to produce material wealth there is no possibility of a socialist future, only of an abundance of povery. This "destroyed any hope of a socialist democracy" comes from the mislead idealists that wanted the "war communism" implemented during the civil war to continue, which would've lead to a catastrophe of gargantuan proportions a couple of decades later with the invasion of Nazi Germany. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago Stalin literally saved the world from the nazis so maybe you should take a step back and evaluate who your friends are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) counterpoint: everyone should read writings from every historical world leader, you will be in for a surprise. You'll find out that mainstream respected world leaders churchill and Teddy R almost echo hitler on their writings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Terminal_ERROR@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not saying that those people are great, don't pretend Stalin, the man that destroyed any hope of a effective socialist democracy, as a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago Regardless of one's view on Stalin, I don't think it's accurate to say he destroyed democracy within the Soviet Union. The Soviets, both during Stalin and after Stalin (and before) had a form of democracy called "Soviet Democracy." It was focused on electing delegates to serve at higher councils, called "Soviets." See this graphic for how it functioned: Also read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan if you are further interested. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago The early USSR policies built strong socialists foundations, without a highly developed industry to produce material wealth there is no possibility of a socialist future, only of an abundance of povery. This "destroyed any hope of a socialist democracy" comes from the mislead idealists that wanted the "war communism" implemented during the civil war to continue, which would've lead to a catastrophe of gargantuan proportions a couple of decades later with the invasion of Nazi Germany. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Terminal_ERROR@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not saying that those people are great, don't pretend Stalin, the man that destroyed any hope of a effective socialist democracy, as a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago Regardless of one's view on Stalin, I don't think it's accurate to say he destroyed democracy within the Soviet Union. The Soviets, both during Stalin and after Stalin (and before) had a form of democracy called "Soviet Democracy." It was focused on electing delegates to serve at higher councils, called "Soviets." See this graphic for how it functioned: Also read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan if you are further interested. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago The early USSR policies built strong socialists foundations, without a highly developed industry to produce material wealth there is no possibility of a socialist future, only of an abundance of povery. This "destroyed any hope of a socialist democracy" comes from the mislead idealists that wanted the "war communism" implemented during the civil war to continue, which would've lead to a catastrophe of gargantuan proportions a couple of decades later with the invasion of Nazi Germany. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago Regardless of one's view on Stalin, I don't think it's accurate to say he destroyed democracy within the Soviet Union. The Soviets, both during Stalin and after Stalin (and before) had a form of democracy called "Soviet Democracy." It was focused on electing delegates to serve at higher councils, called "Soviets." See this graphic for how it functioned: Also read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan if you are further interested. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago The early USSR policies built strong socialists foundations, without a highly developed industry to produce material wealth there is no possibility of a socialist future, only of an abundance of povery. This "destroyed any hope of a socialist democracy" comes from the mislead idealists that wanted the "war communism" implemented during the civil war to continue, which would've lead to a catastrophe of gargantuan proportions a couple of decades later with the invasion of Nazi Germany. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago Stalin literally saved the world from the nazis so maybe you should take a step back and evaluate who your friends are permalink fedilink source parent