▲ 10 ▼ Right-wing vegan, an oxymoron? (hexbear.net) submitted 3 years ago by Salmarez@hexbear.net to c/vegan@hexbear.net 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments Maybe this should be elementary: no, there are no right-wing vegans. But at least Lifting Vegan Logic has said that he is neither left, or right. Usually I would say it means he is right-wing, so I am wrong?
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago* (6 children) there are no right-wing vegans There are plenty of them. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HippieFairie@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I would argue being anti-human disqualifies you from veganism as it is inherently speciesist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RNAi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, but right wing people usually have "cognitive dissonance" so they don't have a coherent logic for their life. And I'm not talking about "knowing you should be vegan but too lazy/self-indulgent to do so", I'm talking about examples like: "I'm vegan cuz it's the right thing, and it's also the right thing for people with inferior genes to live in poverty and work for me" But there's also examples of: "I'm vegan not only cuz I love my golden retriever but also because it's healthier so I get to live longer and with more energy which is exactly what (((they))) don't want" "I'm vegan cuz that gets me a personality and it's an elitist fad so it increases my chances to fuck hot rich people" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) But why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RNAi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Cognitive dissonance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good point, well made permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago cc @Salmarez@hexbear.net Yeah, like someone else hinted at, they might become a vegetarian or vegan for other reasons, like health reasons or even spirituality or pseudo-sciences. Then they might find other vegans who expose them to the reality of animal cruelty, which compels them to become legitimate vegans motivated by the same ideas as other vegans. So long as they don't connect the that with understanding how human hierarchies tend to cause egregious and unnecessary human suffering (and add to that the violent reputation of anti-capitalists in the media, which seems like causing direct suffering) then I wouldn't be that surprised to see anti-leftist vegans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HippieFairie@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I would argue being anti-human disqualifies you from veganism as it is inherently speciesist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RNAi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, but right wing people usually have "cognitive dissonance" so they don't have a coherent logic for their life. And I'm not talking about "knowing you should be vegan but too lazy/self-indulgent to do so", I'm talking about examples like: "I'm vegan cuz it's the right thing, and it's also the right thing for people with inferior genes to live in poverty and work for me" But there's also examples of: "I'm vegan not only cuz I love my golden retriever but also because it's healthier so I get to live longer and with more energy which is exactly what (((they))) don't want" "I'm vegan cuz that gets me a personality and it's an elitist fad so it increases my chances to fuck hot rich people" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, but right wing people usually have "cognitive dissonance" so they don't have a coherent logic for their life. And I'm not talking about "knowing you should be vegan but too lazy/self-indulgent to do so", I'm talking about examples like: "I'm vegan cuz it's the right thing, and it's also the right thing for people with inferior genes to live in poverty and work for me" But there's also examples of: "I'm vegan not only cuz I love my golden retriever but also because it's healthier so I get to live longer and with more energy which is exactly what (((they))) don't want" "I'm vegan cuz that gets me a personality and it's an elitist fad so it increases my chances to fuck hot rich people" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) But why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RNAi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Cognitive dissonance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good point, well made permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago cc @Salmarez@hexbear.net Yeah, like someone else hinted at, they might become a vegetarian or vegan for other reasons, like health reasons or even spirituality or pseudo-sciences. Then they might find other vegans who expose them to the reality of animal cruelty, which compels them to become legitimate vegans motivated by the same ideas as other vegans. So long as they don't connect the that with understanding how human hierarchies tend to cause egregious and unnecessary human suffering (and add to that the violent reputation of anti-capitalists in the media, which seems like causing direct suffering) then I wouldn't be that surprised to see anti-leftist vegans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Cognitive dissonance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good point, well made permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago cc @Salmarez@hexbear.net Yeah, like someone else hinted at, they might become a vegetarian or vegan for other reasons, like health reasons or even spirituality or pseudo-sciences. Then they might find other vegans who expose them to the reality of animal cruelty, which compels them to become legitimate vegans motivated by the same ideas as other vegans. So long as they don't connect the that with understanding how human hierarchies tend to cause egregious and unnecessary human suffering (and add to that the violent reputation of anti-capitalists in the media, which seems like causing direct suffering) then I wouldn't be that surprised to see anti-leftist vegans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good point, well made permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago cc @Salmarez@hexbear.net Yeah, like someone else hinted at, they might become a vegetarian or vegan for other reasons, like health reasons or even spirituality or pseudo-sciences. Then they might find other vegans who expose them to the reality of animal cruelty, which compels them to become legitimate vegans motivated by the same ideas as other vegans. So long as they don't connect the that with understanding how human hierarchies tend to cause egregious and unnecessary human suffering (and add to that the violent reputation of anti-capitalists in the media, which seems like causing direct suffering) then I wouldn't be that surprised to see anti-leftist vegans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago cc @Salmarez@hexbear.net Yeah, like someone else hinted at, they might become a vegetarian or vegan for other reasons, like health reasons or even spirituality or pseudo-sciences. Then they might find other vegans who expose them to the reality of animal cruelty, which compels them to become legitimate vegans motivated by the same ideas as other vegans. So long as they don't connect the that with understanding how human hierarchies tend to cause egregious and unnecessary human suffering (and add to that the violent reputation of anti-capitalists in the media, which seems like causing direct suffering) then I wouldn't be that surprised to see anti-leftist vegans. permalink fedilink source parent