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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I think the big difference is what the companies stand for.

If the CEO of The Anti-Spyware Company comes out in support of Spyware, is that not significantly worse than the CEO of The Spyware Company doing the same?

I supported The Anti-Spyware companies because of what they believed in. Now that is in question.

FWIW I don't use Proton but switching to it was in my 2025 plans. Not so sure about that anymore..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dude is not a "CEO", hes one of five board members of the Non-Profit organization that owns Proton AG.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Good to know, I was just going off what OP said

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Your comparison would be appropriate if this was a statement coming out in favor of spyware. Additionally if we looked more closely at who you support, I bet we would find some pretty egregious contradictions with your values/the business’s purported values.

All of us would fail at some point if we were scrutinized. That’s why an all or nothing purity test is not productive. We do the best we can where possible and accept that none of us truly have the 100% perfect moral high ground. So it follows that to hold others to that standard is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

All right then replace support of Spyware with "praise for The Spyware Company"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

He’s not taking about spyware or anything like it. You’re forcing this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Spyware was just an example? Proton is all about privacy and this board member is saying good things about a guy who doesn't think us peasants should have any.

I agree that this isn't the worst thing to ever happen. But I also agree with the people saying he shouldn't have said anything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You’re still reaching. A privacy company praising a spyware company is not the same as one member of a board on his own praising Trump for something not even related to privacy. Stop forcing this. You’re reaching.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!