Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] 126 points 2 years ago (18 children)

No it hasn't. Back this claim up with some evidence

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    These are useful data for making decisions about using their service, but not exactly indicative of support for a right wing authoritarian leader who lies more in one day than he has hairs on his entire body.

    Edit: typo

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    that's why I opened with "I wouldn’t call it writing on the wall."

    Damn; you're right. My bad. I somehow missed your opener saying exactly the opposite of what you were saying.

    Everything you said is true and verifiable, and worth considering when you decide which service to use. It's a lot of reasons to favor the .onion/tor version of their service to limit what they have access to depending on your privacy stance.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Woah... an actually rock-solid account of problems with Proton! Nicely done.

    This contrasts with the incoherent conspiracy theory spaghetti that has sometimes been trotted out to make the case against them.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is interesting. I’m current using btguard, but was thinking about other vpn providers. I have a free protonmail email account and was wondering about their vpn service. Sounds like they are not so privacy oriented. And I assume NordVPN is a similar story?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    1,2 and 3 are completely irrelevant. 1 is completely normal, 2 missed the point that the wallet (which I don't use, I never owned crypto) has nothing to do with privacy and 4 is an optional marketing strategy to incentivise migration from google. Nothing is wrong with any of this.

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  • [+] -39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    They've been cooperating with law enforcement and handing data to the cops proactively since 2021.

    Pay attention.

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