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Will I be banned? Looking to migrate from Reddit, but only if free speech is paramount. (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Looking to see if I am welcom on kbin to express the viewpoint that it is not possible to be "trans."

I assert that it is not possible to transition and that gender is the same as sex.

Is this an acceptable viewpoint on kbin, or will I be banned for expressing this?

Not looking to start a fight, just want to know if such speech is tolerated here.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that there are plenty of instances, can you point me in the right direction?

No, I can't, because the instance I'm a member of is very pro-trans, and we tend not to federate with instances that make the opposing viewpoint as large a part of their discourse as you seem to want to.

If you simply can't find a conservatively aligned instance to join, though, the beauty of the Fediverse is that you can create one. Create an instance that caters to the crowd you want to associate with. Let them come to you, then nobody can ban you for your views. (You will likely face defederation from a number of other instances, though, so be aware of that possibility.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the level headed response. Everyone deserves their own space to share opinions, even if you and me don't like them. That's what Lemmy and kbin are ultimately far better at than Reddit and similar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with you that it's important for everyone to have a space to share their opinions, if only so that they will congregate in those spaces and stay out of our spaces. The 'Nazi Bar' story came immediately to mind when I saw this post (originally posted on Twitter by @iamragesparkle):

I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out." And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them." And i was like, ohok and he continues. "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

I don't want to drink in a Nazi bar, and I assume you don't want to drink in a Nazi bar, but it's still important for the Nazi bar to exist somewhere, so the Nazis have somewhere to go that isn't here.