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[+] -8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Why shouldn't feminist ideas center women?

I'm not saying that patriarchy centers women, I'm saying its invocation here centers feminism in a topic about a masculine issue, which is to, say, it's rude and counterproductive.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok, let me rephrase. You aren't going to accept that talking about the patriarchy is anything other than feminist and centering women.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Talking about the patriarchy is feminism. Feminism necessarily centers women, or it's not really feminism, degraded into an all-encompassing ideology devoid of its intended purpose.

    (PETA isn't feminism just because it can invoke the language of oppression.)

    So yes, I advance this notion that talking about the patriarchy in a topic about male pain is centering feminism and therefore centering women. I don't see that this should be controversial.

    Except, of course, to those who universalize feminism into a cure-all ideology, which is shorthand for broken thinking which diverts feminism from its purpose.

    You can't fix men with feminism: that's an incoherent idea.

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