▲ 288 ▼ The culprit of all wars (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago* by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] perry@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Why the downvotes? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well IMO it is a bit simplistic to just toss it to capitalism. I do agree that capitalists profit from wars and historically have started wars for profit, but the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza are a bit more complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Gaza colonialist takeover is as straighforward as you can get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dead people do not produce excess value, alive people do. I hate to think that way but if you put yourself in the shoes of a capitalist exploiting Palestinians with the help of Israel I think would be much more profitable than killing them. Just like in Germany during WW2 capitalist interests give way to fascism and hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Israel is a settler-colonial project, it exterminates Palestinians for land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago It's ignoring the crusades permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well IMO it is a bit simplistic to just toss it to capitalism. I do agree that capitalists profit from wars and historically have started wars for profit, but the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza are a bit more complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Gaza colonialist takeover is as straighforward as you can get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dead people do not produce excess value, alive people do. I hate to think that way but if you put yourself in the shoes of a capitalist exploiting Palestinians with the help of Israel I think would be much more profitable than killing them. Just like in Germany during WW2 capitalist interests give way to fascism and hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Israel is a settler-colonial project, it exterminates Palestinians for land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Gaza colonialist takeover is as straighforward as you can get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dead people do not produce excess value, alive people do. I hate to think that way but if you put yourself in the shoes of a capitalist exploiting Palestinians with the help of Israel I think would be much more profitable than killing them. Just like in Germany during WW2 capitalist interests give way to fascism and hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Israel is a settler-colonial project, it exterminates Palestinians for land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dead people do not produce excess value, alive people do. I hate to think that way but if you put yourself in the shoes of a capitalist exploiting Palestinians with the help of Israel I think would be much more profitable than killing them. Just like in Germany during WW2 capitalist interests give way to fascism and hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Israel is a settler-colonial project, it exterminates Palestinians for land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Israel is a settler-colonial project, it exterminates Palestinians for land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I do agree that it is settler-colonial project. I also do not think land is the main purpose of the genocide. I think the extermination of Palestinians(and other Arabs) is the main reason, taking the land is a very good additional incentive. But neither I nor You can know what happens in the heads of genocidal maniacs so we can only guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) We can only guess based on the economic structures, trends, and stated goals going back to the founding Zionists. It has always been a land grab, they are always seeking new land to sell and fuel its settler-colonial economy. Never attribute evil to madness when you can analyze the material and economic basis for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago It's ignoring the crusades permalink fedilink source parent
