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[+] Stovetop@lemmy.world 160 points 3 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (16 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 55 points 3 years ago It's perfect conditioning to accept authoritarian rule, and constant surveillance as normal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 45 points 3 years ago (10 children) if only there was a Black mirror episode about the dangers of being an overbearing parent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 10 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The thing is, parents get incredibly conflicted messages about this. When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive. If they supervise and control their child they get called helicopter parents or abusive as well. And it's not only regarding the internet. When parents let their children roam, for example, the neighborhood and something bad happens, the parents get the blame and called abusive for letting their child roam the neighborhood. If they control outdoors time for they child, they are abusive again. It literally doesn't matter what you do as a parent, a lot of people will call you a bad parent or an abuser for it. I believe it is one reason why some people don't want to have children at all. It's basically an impossible task. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xyproto@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive Not everywhere. This is typical for the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* (7 children) To be honest, Black mirror is not a prophecy. It merely is a speculation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (6 children) it is not a speculation nor a prophecy lol, it's stories exploring the human condition with technology as the driver of the story permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -14 points 3 years ago (5 children) It could not "explore". It's a fiction, it fantasizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) This sort of oppressive situation is my childhood in a nutshell. And you're right, it's entirely unethical, and in combination with other factors can be used as a factor in psychological abuse. I know I at least am traumatized from it, and surveillance was definitely one of many signifigant factors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) People really underestimate the effects constant surveillance has on a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Exactly. Kids grown in high volume of surveillance (e.g. my nieces) end up being more aggressive towards rules, which creates people who think rules are there to be broken. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Haha@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago haha permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 55 points 3 years ago It's perfect conditioning to accept authoritarian rule, and constant surveillance as normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 45 points 3 years ago (10 children) if only there was a Black mirror episode about the dangers of being an overbearing parent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 10 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The thing is, parents get incredibly conflicted messages about this. When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive. If they supervise and control their child they get called helicopter parents or abusive as well. And it's not only regarding the internet. When parents let their children roam, for example, the neighborhood and something bad happens, the parents get the blame and called abusive for letting their child roam the neighborhood. If they control outdoors time for they child, they are abusive again. It literally doesn't matter what you do as a parent, a lot of people will call you a bad parent or an abuser for it. I believe it is one reason why some people don't want to have children at all. It's basically an impossible task. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xyproto@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive Not everywhere. This is typical for the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* (7 children) To be honest, Black mirror is not a prophecy. It merely is a speculation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (6 children) it is not a speculation nor a prophecy lol, it's stories exploring the human condition with technology as the driver of the story permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -14 points 3 years ago (5 children) It could not "explore". It's a fiction, it fantasizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 10 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The thing is, parents get incredibly conflicted messages about this. When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive. If they supervise and control their child they get called helicopter parents or abusive as well. And it's not only regarding the internet. When parents let their children roam, for example, the neighborhood and something bad happens, the parents get the blame and called abusive for letting their child roam the neighborhood. If they control outdoors time for they child, they are abusive again. It literally doesn't matter what you do as a parent, a lot of people will call you a bad parent or an abuser for it. I believe it is one reason why some people don't want to have children at all. It's basically an impossible task. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xyproto@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive Not everywhere. This is typical for the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xyproto@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive Not everywhere. This is typical for the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* (7 children) To be honest, Black mirror is not a prophecy. It merely is a speculation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (6 children) it is not a speculation nor a prophecy lol, it's stories exploring the human condition with technology as the driver of the story permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -14 points 3 years ago (5 children) It could not "explore". It's a fiction, it fantasizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (6 children) it is not a speculation nor a prophecy lol, it's stories exploring the human condition with technology as the driver of the story permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -14 points 3 years ago (5 children) It could not "explore". It's a fiction, it fantasizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -14 points 3 years ago (5 children) It could not "explore". It's a fiction, it fantasizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Merriam-Webster definition for "explore" 1a: to investigate, study, or analyze : look into ➡️sometimes used with indirect questions This definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there's a long history of using the word "explore" in this exact type of situation. Anyway, the point is, don't be such a wet blanket, plz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) I just don't think some fiction is reliable source of information. And I can't see in the definition the meaning you are implying. You're overstretching it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) it's unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago Are you speaking of yourself? Read definition of "to explore", please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 1 point 3 years ago Imagines is probably a better word, not all fiction is fantasy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) This sort of oppressive situation is my childhood in a nutshell. And you're right, it's entirely unethical, and in combination with other factors can be used as a factor in psychological abuse. I know I at least am traumatized from it, and surveillance was definitely one of many signifigant factors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) People really underestimate the effects constant surveillance has on a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Exactly. Kids grown in high volume of surveillance (e.g. my nieces) end up being more aggressive towards rules, which creates people who think rules are there to be broken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) People really underestimate the effects constant surveillance has on a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Exactly. Kids grown in high volume of surveillance (e.g. my nieces) end up being more aggressive towards rules, which creates people who think rules are there to be broken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Exactly. Kids grown in high volume of surveillance (e.g. my nieces) end up being more aggressive towards rules, which creates people who think rules are there to be broken. permalink fedilink source parent