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Titan sub: crew have died after catastrophic loss of pressure chamber, US Coast Guard confirms (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if the banging was them trying to crack the window to avoid suffocating?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Implosions require a lot of pressure, so whatever took them out did it while they were still deep.

My guess is it happened as they approached extreme depths. Metal fatigue and poor design aren't always instantly apparent, but they stack up exponentially. The same way the CEO had piloted it down before he did again, then BANG and done. Would have been practically instant and without warning.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Worth pointing out that only the end caps were metal (and titanium at that, which is already brittle), while the bulk of the hull was carbon fiber, which doesn't ~~gradually fatigue~~ bend and buckle, it fails catastrophically.

Also, they lost signal at 1 hour and 45 minutes into a ~2 hour dive. I don't know how much their dive rate varied, but if we assume it was effectively constant, that puts them at ~3500 meters at LOS.

Combining those two points, two to three years after building the ship, they identified cyclic fatigue in the carbon fiber that reduced their calculated rating to 3000 meters. Since that's not enough to get to Titanic, they completely rebuilt the ship, two years ago.

So yeah, I think you're right. With the public facts available, I think the most likely scenario is the carbon fiber hull was fatiguing again, they decided to trust their acoustic/strain monitoring system that they believed would give them enough warning to resurface (which the guy they fired in 2018 said might only give them warnings milliseconds before there was a problem), and it failed somewhere below 3000 meters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Definitely not. For one, the banging was heard a couple days ago, when there would still have been hope of rescue. Two, if 375 atmospheres of pressure hasn't broken it, you're not going to break it with whatever random stuff you can find. And three, although we don't know that the implosion happened at loss of signal, it's more likely than them losing signal and then imploding at some later point.

Edit: Should also add that if the sonar buoys that the search team dropped were able to hear them banging on the hull, they would almost certainly have also heard the implosion. Given that it imploded, it's much more likely that it happened before the buoys were deployed.