▲ 1156 ▼ Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in (www.theverge.com) submitted 3 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 226 comments fedilink hide all child comments Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in::Pornhub operator MindGeek has blocked all users in Arkansas from the site after the state’s new age verification law went into effect.
[–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 116 points 3 years ago (15 children) The party of small government. permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago (2 children) For a party that prides itself on being all about "small government" and "no nanny state," this is some surprisingly big government nanny state shenanigans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) The small government libertarian types were lowered in priority in the party after two decades of people pandering to them because there's basically nobody out there that's a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. Trump and his grip on the GOP are evidence again of that same thing. There are more "conservatives" that are actually fiscal liberals and social conservatives than there are right libertarians. The rich would (for the most part) love to get the tax breaks and allow people to do whatever they want socially, but that (and virtue signaling) are not enough to rile up the fascist voters and evangelicals anymore. They've crossed the Rubicon with Trump and now it's full on censorship and other Nazi tactics to take us back to the good old (non-existent) days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] persolb@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I’m just going to sit over here in my fiscally conservative and socially liberal corner. (Although, I’m good with some level of safety nets still) permalink fedilink source parent [+] canni@lemmy.one -39 points 3 years ago (11 children) In fairness, this is a state law. States rights being part of the Republican platform during my childhood. Just another reason not to go to/live in Arkansas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] HellAwaits@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] YeeterOfWorlds@lemm.ee -15 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is it? I think "you can't show porn to kids" seems like something well within the authority of a state to make a law about, even if the implementation is hamfisted and ineffective. My understanding is that porn would be considered obscenity, and obscenity is generally not protected by the first amendment, and can generally be regulated much more strictly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago This isn't "you can't show porn to kids," this is "you have to provide an official ID to see porn." Aside from just basic surveillance state issues, what happens when there's the inevitable data breach? permalink fedilink source parent [–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 48 points 3 years ago (1 child) Small government is allegedly still at part of the Republican platform at the state level. For a small government party, they sure do like to dictate what's going on in people's bedrooms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago This is interestingly why Democrats once performed better at the local level. There was a sizeable block that would split their ticket on state lines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) Republicans only cry States Rights when the federal government is attempting to make someone's life better or when they want to take something away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* They cry states rights as a tactic because they can control some states. If they had a supermajority on the national level they'd be passing abortion bans, contraceptive bans, trans bans, and any number of other abhorrent piles of garbage through at the federal level. Note how they give not a single shit about states rights to regulate firearms or allow abortions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) "just move" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You know, there is a reasonable reading of the comment that doesn't involve the assumption that they are telling people to move FROM Arkansas. Intentionally avoiding visiting the state, and intentionally avoiding relocating there, are quite different than the standard "LEAVE THE STATE" comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 years ago They used to claim they wanted a small government meaning not telling people what to Jack off to. It wasn’t solely about the federal government. Of course if you ask them you quickly find out it’s freedom for them to do anything they want while subjecting all of us to disgusting fascist fascinations permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago (2 children) For a party that prides itself on being all about "small government" and "no nanny state," this is some surprisingly big government nanny state shenanigans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) The small government libertarian types were lowered in priority in the party after two decades of people pandering to them because there's basically nobody out there that's a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. Trump and his grip on the GOP are evidence again of that same thing. There are more "conservatives" that are actually fiscal liberals and social conservatives than there are right libertarians. The rich would (for the most part) love to get the tax breaks and allow people to do whatever they want socially, but that (and virtue signaling) are not enough to rile up the fascist voters and evangelicals anymore. They've crossed the Rubicon with Trump and now it's full on censorship and other Nazi tactics to take us back to the good old (non-existent) days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] persolb@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I’m just going to sit over here in my fiscally conservative and socially liberal corner. (Although, I’m good with some level of safety nets still) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) The small government libertarian types were lowered in priority in the party after two decades of people pandering to them because there's basically nobody out there that's a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. Trump and his grip on the GOP are evidence again of that same thing. There are more "conservatives" that are actually fiscal liberals and social conservatives than there are right libertarians. The rich would (for the most part) love to get the tax breaks and allow people to do whatever they want socially, but that (and virtue signaling) are not enough to rile up the fascist voters and evangelicals anymore. They've crossed the Rubicon with Trump and now it's full on censorship and other Nazi tactics to take us back to the good old (non-existent) days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] persolb@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I’m just going to sit over here in my fiscally conservative and socially liberal corner. (Although, I’m good with some level of safety nets still) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] persolb@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I’m just going to sit over here in my fiscally conservative and socially liberal corner. (Although, I’m good with some level of safety nets still) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] canni@lemmy.one -39 points 3 years ago (11 children) In fairness, this is a state law. States rights being part of the Republican platform during my childhood. Just another reason not to go to/live in Arkansas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] HellAwaits@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] YeeterOfWorlds@lemm.ee -15 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is it? I think "you can't show porn to kids" seems like something well within the authority of a state to make a law about, even if the implementation is hamfisted and ineffective. My understanding is that porn would be considered obscenity, and obscenity is generally not protected by the first amendment, and can generally be regulated much more strictly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago This isn't "you can't show porn to kids," this is "you have to provide an official ID to see porn." Aside from just basic surveillance state issues, what happens when there's the inevitable data breach? permalink fedilink source parent [–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 48 points 3 years ago (1 child) Small government is allegedly still at part of the Republican platform at the state level. For a small government party, they sure do like to dictate what's going on in people's bedrooms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago This is interestingly why Democrats once performed better at the local level. There was a sizeable block that would split their ticket on state lines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) Republicans only cry States Rights when the federal government is attempting to make someone's life better or when they want to take something away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* They cry states rights as a tactic because they can control some states. If they had a supermajority on the national level they'd be passing abortion bans, contraceptive bans, trans bans, and any number of other abhorrent piles of garbage through at the federal level. Note how they give not a single shit about states rights to regulate firearms or allow abortions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) "just move" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You know, there is a reasonable reading of the comment that doesn't involve the assumption that they are telling people to move FROM Arkansas. Intentionally avoiding visiting the state, and intentionally avoiding relocating there, are quite different than the standard "LEAVE THE STATE" comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 years ago They used to claim they wanted a small government meaning not telling people what to Jack off to. It wasn’t solely about the federal government. Of course if you ask them you quickly find out it’s freedom for them to do anything they want while subjecting all of us to disgusting fascist fascinations permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HellAwaits@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] YeeterOfWorlds@lemm.ee -15 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is it? I think "you can't show porn to kids" seems like something well within the authority of a state to make a law about, even if the implementation is hamfisted and ineffective. My understanding is that porn would be considered obscenity, and obscenity is generally not protected by the first amendment, and can generally be regulated much more strictly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago This isn't "you can't show porn to kids," this is "you have to provide an official ID to see porn." Aside from just basic surveillance state issues, what happens when there's the inevitable data breach? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] YeeterOfWorlds@lemm.ee -15 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is it? I think "you can't show porn to kids" seems like something well within the authority of a state to make a law about, even if the implementation is hamfisted and ineffective. My understanding is that porn would be considered obscenity, and obscenity is generally not protected by the first amendment, and can generally be regulated much more strictly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago This isn't "you can't show porn to kids," this is "you have to provide an official ID to see porn." Aside from just basic surveillance state issues, what happens when there's the inevitable data breach? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago This isn't "you can't show porn to kids," this is "you have to provide an official ID to see porn." Aside from just basic surveillance state issues, what happens when there's the inevitable data breach? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 48 points 3 years ago (1 child) Small government is allegedly still at part of the Republican platform at the state level. For a small government party, they sure do like to dictate what's going on in people's bedrooms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago This is interestingly why Democrats once performed better at the local level. There was a sizeable block that would split their ticket on state lines. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago This is interestingly why Democrats once performed better at the local level. There was a sizeable block that would split their ticket on state lines. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) Republicans only cry States Rights when the federal government is attempting to make someone's life better or when they want to take something away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* They cry states rights as a tactic because they can control some states. If they had a supermajority on the national level they'd be passing abortion bans, contraceptive bans, trans bans, and any number of other abhorrent piles of garbage through at the federal level. Note how they give not a single shit about states rights to regulate firearms or allow abortions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* They cry states rights as a tactic because they can control some states. If they had a supermajority on the national level they'd be passing abortion bans, contraceptive bans, trans bans, and any number of other abhorrent piles of garbage through at the federal level. Note how they give not a single shit about states rights to regulate firearms or allow abortions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) "just move" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You know, there is a reasonable reading of the comment that doesn't involve the assumption that they are telling people to move FROM Arkansas. Intentionally avoiding visiting the state, and intentionally avoiding relocating there, are quite different than the standard "LEAVE THE STATE" comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You know, there is a reasonable reading of the comment that doesn't involve the assumption that they are telling people to move FROM Arkansas. Intentionally avoiding visiting the state, and intentionally avoiding relocating there, are quite different than the standard "LEAVE THE STATE" comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 years ago They used to claim they wanted a small government meaning not telling people what to Jack off to. It wasn’t solely about the federal government. Of course if you ask them you quickly find out it’s freedom for them to do anything they want while subjecting all of us to disgusting fascist fascinations permalink fedilink source parent