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maga neighbour came over and lost morale (i.redd.it)
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[–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

They see big corporations making huge profits and somehow come to the conclusion it must be the illegal immigrants who are causing the problem (?)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    In part, yes.

    I've seen it myself as the son of a roofing contractor who votes Republican because when he was younger and his business was thriving, his bids were undercut by other companies using illegal labor. Now he's in his 80's and driving for DoorDash, because that's the only job he can get and Biden and Co. aren't going to do anything to help his situation if he doesn't find a way to make money.

    I'm just one person in America, but there are millions of stories like this. It really can't be denied that while there are many positive effects of immigration, there are also negative effects, and those can become more pronounced when illegal immigration numbers increase as dramatically as they have in the past four years.

    With that said, nearly every working class American is struggling on some level, having watched their grocery, utility, and rent costs double and triple over the last four years. They may not even give a shit about immigration, but they do care that they're working 60-80 hours a week (or more) and their pay isn't sufficient to deal with the cost of living.

    And Dems wasted months of the campaign telling struggling people to be joyful.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    "Increase as dramatically as they have in the past four years" But have they really. The numbers I'm seeing don't seem to support your point:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/646261/unauthorized-immigrant-population-in-the-us/ Shows that generally the number of Unauthorized immigrants increased from 1990 at 3.5 million to 11.31 in 2006, and have bounced around 10.49 to 11.75 (2016) up to 10.99 in 2022.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    because that’s the only job he can get and Biden and Co. aren’t going to do anything to help his situation if he doesn’t find a way to make money.

    What's Trump going to do for his situation?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Our guy is as bad as their guy" isn't the blistering retort you think it is.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Harris wasn't as bad as Trump, that's the galling thing.

    But really, it doesn't matter now and I'm done arguing about it.

    We're all going to suffer, but the fire that will warm my heart for the next four years is all the calories I'll burn telling Trump voters. Stein voters, and non-voters that they are getting what they voted for.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    We’re all going to suffer, but the fire that will warm my heart for the next four years is all the calories I’ll burn telling Trump voters. Stein voters, and non-voters that they are getting what they voted for.

    I mean, pretending you're better than everyone else is definitely a choice. Democrats used to be the party of the working poor but they've morphed into the party of ideological superiority.

    I must admit I'm a tad shocked watching you folks double down on all your mistakes after this last election.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    I must admit I’m a tad shocked watching you folks double down on all your mistakes after this last election.

    I'm a tad shocked watching you folks assume that people can't both recognize the hell you have sentenced ALL of us to for a bare minimum of the next four years while also being angry as shit at the DNC for fucking this up so bad and letting them know about it via more effective means than posting to social media for your approval.

    Edit: And make no mistake, the last group of people who could have avoided what we're all about to experience is the electorate.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    pretending you’re better than everyone else is definitely a choice.

    If you voted Democrat in this election, you are absolutely better than someone who voted for Republicans or the Green Party (a vote for Republicans). You are better ethically and economically. You'll spend the next 4 years (or more) learning that the hard way.

    Democrats used to be the party of the working poor but they’ve morphed into the party of ideological superiority.

    If you bothered to pay attention to the legislation Democrats, to this day, still pass or attempt to pass, you'd know that they are still very much the party of the working poor.

    It's high time you sit down and review the voting history of the Democrat and Republican parties so you can actually educate yourself. And no, I don't care about the Green Party because they are not, and will not be anytime in the foreseeable future, powerful enough to introduce, much less pass legislation.

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