927
"Didn't expect MAGA to be racist to me!" (slrpnk.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works
93 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's less of a legal distinction and more of a definition thing. He is objectively using the wrong word.

It would not be incorrect to refer to the people of Puerto Ricans as a nation by the definition of the word. The word nation does not refer to a place but a group of people.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Both words refer to both concepts.

    country

    1. A nation or state. 
    2. The territory of a nation or state; land. 
    3. The people of a nation or state; populace.

    nation

    1. A relatively large group of people organized under a single, usually independent government; a country. 
    2. The territory occupied by such a group of people.
    3. The government of a sovereign state.
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    This definition is not fully correct. A nation does not need to have a government. For example the Kurds

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Yes but my point is that he’s not using the wrong word.

    Edit: also Kurdistan exists

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Kurdistan doesn't really have a central government like that, nor fixed or well defined borders. Keep in mind that the concept of a "Nation State" is really only a couple hundred years old.

    If that counterexample doesn't satisfy you, then Somalia should. It is a country without a functioning government, which has two nations inside of them of the northern and southern Somalians which are completely different, and neither of which have any sort of unifying government.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    That’s your point though, isn’t it?

    The “people” and the “territory” are not the same thing, but both words “country” and “nation” are used more or less interchangeably to apply to either.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •