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Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x02 "Ad Astra Per Aspera" (startrek.website)
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LoglineCommander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out.

Written by Dana Horgan

Directed by Valerie Weiss

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[–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

But this was looking at a group of people that had been othered, while the federation had accepted race they othered Illyrians. So it does bring in 50s America or South Africa due to that othering that was alive at those times and still is (BLM being needed). It does also include the modern othering that is going on now so absolutly it speaks to the trans community, but all the same arguments apply to others (one of the the reasons I despise LGBdroptheT is as a group that was othered, a minority of the LGB minority now attempts to join the majority so they can other Trans.)

Now I can just be dismissed as woke

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    But the Federation has no history with the Illyrians. The Illyrians weren't forced to live in Federation society. Their ancestors weren't enslaved by the Federation. Their planets weren't conquered by the Federation. As far as we know, they're not refugees who had to flee into Federation space.

    It would be different if Illyrians had always been a group within the Federation. But they chose to go to the Federation with full knowledge of the Federation's laws. They have the choice to reject Federation membership if they wanted.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    @kingofmadcows
    @Jon-H558

    Not being citizens of the Federation does not allow Federation citizens to harass the Illyrians nor to threaten them.

    And since the Federation and also the Star Fleet have an ideal of tolerance, IMHO it was a wise decision to ban augmentation (against the background of the Eugenic Wars) but to judge wisely if a single person really is a threat or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    And since the Federation and also the Star Fleet have an ideal of tolerance, IMHO it was a wise decision to ban augmentation (against the background of the Eugenic Wars) but to judge wisely if a single person really is a threat or not.

    I don't think they made the case that banning augmentation made sense just because there were some augments historically that were megalomaniac war lords. One thing that's always bothered me since I listened to Mission Log on TOS was how Star Trek was so sure that everyone always had to do things "the hard way" and always had to be striving to be more. The anti android, anti augment, anti too much automation all ties back to this in some way I think. But of course - this isn't really justified very well.

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