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Windows Recall is secretly installed and enabled on non-Copilot+PCs (Privacy Nightmare) (www.youtube.com)
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[–] [S] 222 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Windows Recall today: Your data is private and stays on local machine.

Recall after 2 years: We may use your data to train our AI models, improve our services and personalize your experince.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Recall after 2 years: Your personalized ads are generated on device based on preferences detected by Recall and our partners. Recall shares these preferences with Microsoft and our 23,671.5 partners and 16 nation-state partners around the world to better serve you <3.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Interesting way to put it. The first thing it made me think is that if they did the 2nd part entirely within your PC, would it be ok privacy-wise, and would the consumers be ok with it?

    I haven't looked into the current iterations options, but I think I still want the option to turn it off. Personally I'm less concerned with privacy and more concerned with it using up my computers resources.

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  • [+] 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)
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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I ditched Microsoft on my new build back in Feb. I installed Mint and it's been a really smooth transition for me. I can still do everything I used to, although I know there are some use cases where it's a problem for people. All the games I've tried run well.

    But it does give me peace of mind that someone isn't going to change my settings in a way that benefits them in a patch. I feel like I'm working with my OS to get things done instead of wrestling against what some corporate MBA wants.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Mint is the distro of choice for people who want to work on their computer, not work on their computer.

    Like I'm glad for all the nerds who change distros as often as they change pairs of pants and enjoy fiddle-fucking around with their setup, but some of us only want a computer that just works and doesn't give us shit.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    No, there’s a bigger context that you’re not considering: enterprise IT orgs in privacy-sensitive/confidential domains.

    This whole feature is an absolute non-starter in biotech, defense, finance, and a bunch of other industries. It’s an infosec nightmare. Legal teams will categorically refuse to allow W11 to be installed simply due to the legal jeopardy it would put their own orgs in, since it implicitly trusts MS with who the fuck knows how much data exactly.

    I continue to be shocked and baffled that MS isn’t taking their stance on this product as an “always-on” thing back to the drawing board.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    I consult in some companies that don’t even allow copy/paste in outlook. Like, these are actually MS security policies that can be set.

    How in all of the actual fucks could they allow MS to see everything on your screen.

    I agree with your non starter assessment.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Yeah I work for a major company in healthcare and they don't allow Windows 11 for several reasons.

    But also outside of the healthcare data issue, there's the legal issue of retaining data. Our company doesn't allow us to retain emails for more than 2 years and there are lots of other retention policies, and software to enforce them, that don't require keeping data, but instead require deleting it. This is a common trend in major corporations right now. You can't have data hacked or subpoenaed in a court case if it doesn't exist. Recall is great for micromanagement of employees, but bad for just about all other parts of a company. I don't get who is behind this and who they think they're appeasing with it.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    Nah. Even if it's local, I'll burn my CPU cycles on what I want to, thanks. That's like installing a bitcoin miner in your PC and claiming, "But it only runs in the background." Fuck off and buy your own hardware, Microsoft.

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