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[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago (14 children) If I just hand wave all the good things and call them bullshit, AI is nothing more than bad things! Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (6 children) Current "AI's" (LLMs) are only useful for art and non-fact based text. The two things people particularly do not need computers to do for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Llms fucking suck. But that's the worst kind of ai. It's just an autocorrect on steroids. But you know what a good ai is? The one that give an amino acid sequence predicts it's 3d structure. It's mind boggling. We can design personal protein robots with that kind of knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I agree, but the reason for all the AI hate is companies pushing LLMs, calling them AIs, and treating them like some miracle that is worth all the energy they consume. If we try to differentiate between LLMs and AI then the AI hate will go away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly. Llms are a mockery of this tech. They have become so powerful because of the amount of compute we have invested in it. Think if Alpha fold got that much gpu time and de's working how amazing it would be. Heck we need to understand the human genome whose only 1-2% is understood. Apply AI to that instead of an AI that spouts out cheap Shakespeare knockoffs and shitty code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent [+] yankaremonsters@leminal.space -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Frfr no cap permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) What do you think AI has to do with crypto, other than that they are both technologies which have entered the mainstream recently and been pushed hard? Like, what do they actually have in common? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People think they're bad /s ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This but unironically permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Hold the phone, I found two things that are even more closely related The fact that they both use the GPU is mildly interesting, but means nothing beyond conspiracy theories. These events were set in motion decades ago, it's not like AI was invented because Crypto died. spoiler Yes, I am aware of the irony of the website I got that chart from now using GenAI everywhere. That doesn't make my point less true though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (6 children) Current "AI's" (LLMs) are only useful for art and non-fact based text. The two things people particularly do not need computers to do for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Llms fucking suck. But that's the worst kind of ai. It's just an autocorrect on steroids. But you know what a good ai is? The one that give an amino acid sequence predicts it's 3d structure. It's mind boggling. We can design personal protein robots with that kind of knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I agree, but the reason for all the AI hate is companies pushing LLMs, calling them AIs, and treating them like some miracle that is worth all the energy they consume. If we try to differentiate between LLMs and AI then the AI hate will go away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly. Llms are a mockery of this tech. They have become so powerful because of the amount of compute we have invested in it. Think if Alpha fold got that much gpu time and de's working how amazing it would be. Heck we need to understand the human genome whose only 1-2% is understood. Apply AI to that instead of an AI that spouts out cheap Shakespeare knockoffs and shitty code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent [+] yankaremonsters@leminal.space -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Frfr no cap permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Llms fucking suck. But that's the worst kind of ai. It's just an autocorrect on steroids. But you know what a good ai is? The one that give an amino acid sequence predicts it's 3d structure. It's mind boggling. We can design personal protein robots with that kind of knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I agree, but the reason for all the AI hate is companies pushing LLMs, calling them AIs, and treating them like some miracle that is worth all the energy they consume. If we try to differentiate between LLMs and AI then the AI hate will go away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly. Llms are a mockery of this tech. They have become so powerful because of the amount of compute we have invested in it. Think if Alpha fold got that much gpu time and de's working how amazing it would be. Heck we need to understand the human genome whose only 1-2% is understood. Apply AI to that instead of an AI that spouts out cheap Shakespeare knockoffs and shitty code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I agree, but the reason for all the AI hate is companies pushing LLMs, calling them AIs, and treating them like some miracle that is worth all the energy they consume. If we try to differentiate between LLMs and AI then the AI hate will go away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly. Llms are a mockery of this tech. They have become so powerful because of the amount of compute we have invested in it. Think if Alpha fold got that much gpu time and de's working how amazing it would be. Heck we need to understand the human genome whose only 1-2% is understood. Apply AI to that instead of an AI that spouts out cheap Shakespeare knockoffs and shitty code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly. Llms are a mockery of this tech. They have become so powerful because of the amount of compute we have invested in it. Think if Alpha fold got that much gpu time and de's working how amazing it would be. Heck we need to understand the human genome whose only 1-2% is understood. Apply AI to that instead of an AI that spouts out cheap Shakespeare knockoffs and shitty code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago I complete agree, but the original question was why people hate on AIs so much, and the reason is LLMs permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yankaremonsters@leminal.space -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Frfr no cap permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) What do you think AI has to do with crypto, other than that they are both technologies which have entered the mainstream recently and been pushed hard? Like, what do they actually have in common? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People think they're bad /s ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This but unironically permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Hold the phone, I found two things that are even more closely related The fact that they both use the GPU is mildly interesting, but means nothing beyond conspiracy theories. These events were set in motion decades ago, it's not like AI was invented because Crypto died. spoiler Yes, I am aware of the irony of the website I got that chart from now using GenAI everywhere. That doesn't make my point less true though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) What do you think AI has to do with crypto, other than that they are both technologies which have entered the mainstream recently and been pushed hard? Like, what do they actually have in common? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People think they're bad /s ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This but unironically permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Hold the phone, I found two things that are even more closely related The fact that they both use the GPU is mildly interesting, but means nothing beyond conspiracy theories. These events were set in motion decades ago, it's not like AI was invented because Crypto died. spoiler Yes, I am aware of the irony of the website I got that chart from now using GenAI everywhere. That doesn't make my point less true though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People think they're bad /s ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This but unironically permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This but unironically permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think there are some fair reasons, and some... Just ignorant parroted opinions lol permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Hold the phone, I found two things that are even more closely related The fact that they both use the GPU is mildly interesting, but means nothing beyond conspiracy theories. These events were set in motion decades ago, it's not like AI was invented because Crypto died. spoiler Yes, I am aware of the irony of the website I got that chart from now using GenAI everywhere. That doesn't make my point less true though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Hold the phone, I found two things that are even more closely related The fact that they both use the GPU is mildly interesting, but means nothing beyond conspiracy theories. These events were set in motion decades ago, it's not like AI was invented because Crypto died. spoiler Yes, I am aware of the irony of the website I got that chart from now using GenAI everywhere. That doesn't make my point less true though. permalink fedilink source parent