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In the leadup to an election is when there is maximum ability to influence the policies of the candidates. At no time before or after this period will any individual voter have more influence. Libs could have joined in with the uncommitted movement months ago and continually demanded an arms embargo on israel as a precondition for their votes. They could even have fucking lied and in their cowardly little hearts known that they were going to vote for the dems anyway. But no, even that small amount of effort was too much. Instead they immediately en masse announced their unconditional support for the dems and spent all their effort viciously attacking anybody who even mildly criticized their candidate. Absolutely useless dumb fucking crackers. I will not forgive them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Half seems like a low estimate lol. There are probably like, 5 people on here who were radicalized from the moment they were politically conscious. The rest of us are either ex-liberals or if I remember right, a lot of them came up through the Ron Paul pipeline.

I've been a communist for many years now, but I was a lesser evilist up until about a year ago. My brain couldnt break out of it, and part of my struggles with it still.

People on here very obviously do not touch grass. Do not have liberal friends. Do not talk to liberals/lesser evilists. Because they are constantly saying shit that are NOT how a lot of them think. A lot of them do have good intentions. A lot of them do look at things and go "well, that genocide is extremly bad, but thats happening no matter what I do, so I might as well vote for Democrats out of self preservation". Thats how my trans girlfriend thinks for example. She's in Georgia, she sees the violent rhetoric from the GOP about trans people and thinks voting Democrat will save her because the Democrats are extremly good at gaslighting queer people into thinking that. I dont think thats the selfish impulse people treat it as. Even though I've gotten to a point where I disagree with the choice, and have had many frusterated conversations with my girlfriend and others about that, I still like, get why they think that way.

They haven't come around to seeing how a vote is an endorsement yet. And considering how hard I struggled with that concept, I get that. Because a two party first past the post system and the way our media talks about politics do not really lend themselves to that idea.

The unhinged ones on social media are not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people I have private personal relationships who are still voting Kamala despite having relatively radical politics otherwise. They're... basically where I was a year ago about it.

"Blood on your hands" is goofy to me anyway because like, y'all listen. We are all participating in the system that is killing Palestinians lol. We literally all have blood on our hands. And whom amongst us is ACTUALLY laying in front of trucks carrying arms for Israel? In 50 years when kids are asking us what we were doing during the Gaza genocide, very few of us are going to have good answers.

Also, and this really sticks out to me, everyone here talks about how elections like... don't matter? Voting is useless? So why is voting for Kamala some unforgiveable act at that point lmao? I miss when we used to say that we don't care if someone votes, we just dont want them to think that you get real change that way. That made way more sense and was way less unhinged.