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Starting to have a hard time forgiving dem voters for so easily discarding Palestinians (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In the leadup to an election is when there is maximum ability to influence the policies of the candidates. At no time before or after this period will any individual voter have more influence. Libs could have joined in with the uncommitted movement months ago and continually demanded an arms embargo on israel as a precondition for their votes. They could even have fucking lied and in their cowardly little hearts known that they were going to vote for the dems anyway. But no, even that small amount of effort was too much. Instead they immediately en masse announced their unconditional support for the dems and spent all their effort viciously attacking anybody who even mildly criticized their candidate. Absolutely useless dumb fucking crackers. I will not forgive them.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to have to slightly disagree. They deserve more than that.

barbara-pit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God you people are completely unhinged lmao. Voting doesn't mater. It does nothing. WE SAY THIS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter, but they are still making the decision to ideologically align themselves with and also sometimes materially support a genocide.

It's not about the act of going to literally cast a vote for Democrats, it's about either wanting or being ambivalent towards a genocide currently happening.

You support Nazis, you get the pit. How is that unhinged?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Because the number of people you're suggesting executing, for one. And because their ideology is not actually Nazism, for two. And because the thing theyre doing does not actually contribute to the genocide in any material way BECAUSE AS YOU ADMIT YOURSELF VOTING DOES NOTHING. AND because in their mind, as hard as it is for some of you to get this, they arent supporting genocide. They're resigned to the fact that the genocide is happening no matter what they do, and trying to improve material conditions in other ways. They're wrong about this, lesser evil voting doesn't work (and we really need a master post as to why btw, or a ProleWiki page about it). But this is the way our ENTIRE FUCKING CULTURE has gaslit us into thinking about elections and its VVERY FUCKIGN DIFFICULT to break out of it. If you're one of the very small number of people who never thought this way about US elections, congratulations. You somehow avoided the conditioning. But the rest of us didn't.

I was a lesser evilist about voting up until Oct 7 last year pretty much lol. And I was a communist way, way before that. Its not an easy mindset to break out of. These people are not Nazis.